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  • Being desperate is part of what makes the condition intractable
  • be careful taking antibiotics and quercetin simultaneously (see viewtopic.php?p=203#p203 )
  • Cranberry can make chronic prostatitis / chronic pelvic pain syndrome worse. It's an acid irritant of the bladder and urethra
  • CPPS is not a prostate-centred condition, so a normal prostate is the usual finding
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Thanks webslave...I'll try cutting out the cranberry and any accredited quercetin product and see what happens. Pete
Age: 37 | Onset Age: 37 | Symptoms: Started with what seemed to be a lower UTI with discharge, with severe pain in the head of my penis. Severe penile glans pain (made me cry!) continued, with urethra pain and burning (entire length of my urethra right into my body), bladder pain, burning and sensitive skin above my pubic area, burning seems to travel my legs, and sometimes found in my feet. Pins and needles feeling in my penis and testicles, feet and legs, burning in my groin and penis and testicles. One occasion of numb genitals. Helped by: time and patience, and amytriptyline. Tried antibiotics, prednisolone + Prosta-Q, zinc, Vit C, fish oil, flaxseed, garlic tabs, l-carnitine, cranberry, and broccoli protocol. Worsened by: worry.
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Thought I would just update on my progress...prednisolone did nothing, so faded out. Antibiotics, although on two occassions helped a lot (at the start when I had discharge, and a second time, when I had white blood cells in my urine), haven't done much to help in the longer term. What has helped, oddly enough, is time. Over the last two weeks, I have started to feel back to normal, with no explanation. I played with my diet, drugs, supplements, and nothing really seemed to help. I got herpes stuck in my head again and was retested - negative again. So, who knows? I am not 100% recovered, but the terrible pain and burning have left, and I have some tingling in my penis and testicles. One new thing that did happen was right testicular pain - it was also senstive to the touch, along with muscle aches down the rear of both my legs. I used to exercise regularly (aerobic exercise) and have had to stop, so wonder if it is related. The only drug I am taking now is amytriptyline at night. I am beginning to think that all I needed was some time, relaxation, and reduction in worry to start to feel better.
Age: 37 | Onset Age: 37 | Symptoms: Started with what seemed to be a lower UTI with discharge, with severe pain in the head of my penis. Severe penile glans pain (made me cry!) continued, with urethra pain and burning (entire length of my urethra right into my body), bladder pain, burning and sensitive skin above my pubic area, burning seems to travel my legs, and sometimes found in my feet. Pins and needles feeling in my penis and testicles, feet and legs, burning in my groin and penis and testicles. One occasion of numb genitals. Helped by: time and patience, and amytriptyline. Tried antibiotics, prednisolone + Prosta-Q, zinc, Vit C, fish oil, flaxseed, garlic tabs, l-carnitine, cranberry, and broccoli protocol. Worsened by: worry.
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Mild case, short term. Let's hope it keeps fading, as it should. :happy:
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Fingers crossed - the pain I experienced sure wasn't mild...I have never felt anything like that in my life. I even took to using a portable TENS machine, which did help. I really hope this fades forever. I just wanted to say how much I appreciated this website and how useful I found reading about the experiences of others. That certainly led to me feeling like I wasn't alone, which at times, when faced with some members of the medical profession, I felt like I was very alone. Pete
Age: 37 | Onset Age: 37 | Symptoms: Started with what seemed to be a lower UTI with discharge, with severe pain in the head of my penis. Severe penile glans pain (made me cry!) continued, with urethra pain and burning (entire length of my urethra right into my body), bladder pain, burning and sensitive skin above my pubic area, burning seems to travel my legs, and sometimes found in my feet. Pins and needles feeling in my penis and testicles, feet and legs, burning in my groin and penis and testicles. One occasion of numb genitals. Helped by: time and patience, and amytriptyline. Tried antibiotics, prednisolone + Prosta-Q, zinc, Vit C, fish oil, flaxseed, garlic tabs, l-carnitine, cranberry, and broccoli protocol. Worsened by: worry.
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I spoke to soon....my pelvic area has been on fire today and yesteday :(
Age: 37 | Onset Age: 37 | Symptoms: Started with what seemed to be a lower UTI with discharge, with severe pain in the head of my penis. Severe penile glans pain (made me cry!) continued, with urethra pain and burning (entire length of my urethra right into my body), bladder pain, burning and sensitive skin above my pubic area, burning seems to travel my legs, and sometimes found in my feet. Pins and needles feeling in my penis and testicles, feet and legs, burning in my groin and penis and testicles. One occasion of numb genitals. Helped by: time and patience, and amytriptyline. Tried antibiotics, prednisolone + Prosta-Q, zinc, Vit C, fish oil, flaxseed, garlic tabs, l-carnitine, cranberry, and broccoli protocol. Worsened by: worry.
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Re: Newbie (Pete123's Case)

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You will have ups and downs. Unfortunately, it is a part of dealing with CPPS. Don't let it get you down. As hard as it may seem, carry on with whatever you're capable of doing, as your mental state is important.

I have a very severe case (on permanent disability), but I found that these fluctuations happened more and more with time. Eventually, I entered into a rhythm where I'd have flares alternate with long periods of more tolerable symptoms.
I am not a physician. This is not medical advice. Consult your doctor!

Age: 26 Onset Age: 17 Symptoms: Shooting, nerve-like pains throughout the penis, which abruptly hit and leave. Testicular pain, perineum pain, burning/irritative urination, extended pain after ejaculation. Occasionally, some allodynia or ache in the coccyx/sacrum/thigh/buttocks/legs. Diagnosis: Pelvic floor dysfunction, degenerated lumbar disk, and mildly herniated lumbar disk. Helped By: Physical therapy, pain management doctor, hot baths, therapy pool, stretching regimen, breathing exercises, relaxation, distraction. Worsened By: Arousal/ejaculation (worst), constipation, panicking/obsessing, other triggers depend upon current symptoms. Tests/Prior Treatments: Too many antibiotics to count, multiple urine tests (all normal), testicular ultrasound (normal), bladder and renal ultrasound (normal), lumbar and pelvic MRI with and w/o contrast (revealed disk problems), Elavil 25mg (caused retention), Flomax 0.4mg.
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FIngers crossed, this settles. The odd thing is that I am getting less nerve pain in my groin/pelvic area, and more nerve pain in my legs, feet and hands. This seems bizarre, but having searched the forum, can see other folks who have had these problems.
Age: 37 | Onset Age: 37 | Symptoms: Started with what seemed to be a lower UTI with discharge, with severe pain in the head of my penis. Severe penile glans pain (made me cry!) continued, with urethra pain and burning (entire length of my urethra right into my body), bladder pain, burning and sensitive skin above my pubic area, burning seems to travel my legs, and sometimes found in my feet. Pins and needles feeling in my penis and testicles, feet and legs, burning in my groin and penis and testicles. One occasion of numb genitals. Helped by: time and patience, and amytriptyline. Tried antibiotics, prednisolone + Prosta-Q, zinc, Vit C, fish oil, flaxseed, garlic tabs, l-carnitine, cranberry, and broccoli protocol. Worsened by: worry.
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I just wanted to ask if there is anyone who has managed to crack what seems to be widespread neuropathic pain? I seem to have this icy cold type pain in my hands, arms, feet and legs. Sometimes, it is very much like allodynia (sometimes I seem to feel it all over my body), while at other times, it just seems to be pain. The very severe penis pain seems to have subsided, but my genitals still feel uncomfortable and sometimes I get this odd buzzing sensation in my penis, which doesn't seem to last very long. Yesterday, I was filling up my car, and it felt as if someone was literally tickling the head of my penis. All of this is of course rather distressing! I also have these red/purple marks on the glans of my penis, which I swear were not there before, and this does worry me. The urologist I saw suggested this was pain related, and the nerve pain can cause discolouration of the skin, but the marks seem to be there all the time, but rather purple in colour sometimes. I've read many of the posts on the forum, where men have reported similar symptoms. I assume I am going to have to try to just wait this out? I have been trying stretches, and some internal work, but I really am not too sure what I am doing.
Age: 37 | Onset Age: 37 | Symptoms: Started with what seemed to be a lower UTI with discharge, with severe pain in the head of my penis. Severe penile glans pain (made me cry!) continued, with urethra pain and burning (entire length of my urethra right into my body), bladder pain, burning and sensitive skin above my pubic area, burning seems to travel my legs, and sometimes found in my feet. Pins and needles feeling in my penis and testicles, feet and legs, burning in my groin and penis and testicles. One occasion of numb genitals. Helped by: time and patience, and amytriptyline. Tried antibiotics, prednisolone + Prosta-Q, zinc, Vit C, fish oil, flaxseed, garlic tabs, l-carnitine, cranberry, and broccoli protocol. Worsened by: worry.
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CPPS is often accompanied by other conditions, such as IBS and/or CFS. CFS symptoms include cold extremities, so you may have a touch of that. The buzzing penis is probably fasciculations (search for that word on this forum). Skin discolouration is, as you say, a common symptoms, and in my case faded completely with time.
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I have wondered about CFS in the past. Once when I was very ill in my 20s (turned out to be EBV aka glandular fever or mono). I'm hoping the discolouration eventually fades. This illness has a life of its own, and I really haven't been able to work out any triggers, other than maybe sitting for too long. The really severe burning in my penis seems to have not returned, fingers crossed (it seems to be my groin, abdomen, legs, hands and feet). I guess I can just try to carry on as best I can.
Age: 37 | Onset Age: 37 | Symptoms: Started with what seemed to be a lower UTI with discharge, with severe pain in the head of my penis. Severe penile glans pain (made me cry!) continued, with urethra pain and burning (entire length of my urethra right into my body), bladder pain, burning and sensitive skin above my pubic area, burning seems to travel my legs, and sometimes found in my feet. Pins and needles feeling in my penis and testicles, feet and legs, burning in my groin and penis and testicles. One occasion of numb genitals. Helped by: time and patience, and amytriptyline. Tried antibiotics, prednisolone + Prosta-Q, zinc, Vit C, fish oil, flaxseed, garlic tabs, l-carnitine, cranberry, and broccoli protocol. Worsened by: worry.
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My most recent flare up was preceded by nine months of mysterious nerve issues - mostly parasthesias and feeling cold patches. When the flare up happened it basically "replaced" those other problems. I had a million tests done and the conclusion was that the nerve problems were caused by anxiety. When those symptoms disappeared and the chronic prostatitis / chronic pelvic pain syndrome flare up started, I was essentially putting my stress and anxiety in a new place.
Age: 54 | Onset Age:On and off for 20 years | Symptoms:Primary pain in groin, testicles, and perineum, less frequent in penile tip and suprapubic area. | Helped By: Heat applications, some stretches (though there may be more pain initially), meditation/relaxation, trigger point work. | Worsened By: Bowel movements, ejaculation, sitting. Jury is still out on PT/internal.
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Thanks lugnut - I have considered anxiety, and certainly accept that it has a role to play in CPPS. I'm wondering if anyone has tried Normast? http://normast.wordpress.com/about/ Available in Europe, but seems to be little on it in relation to CPPS.
Age: 37 | Onset Age: 37 | Symptoms: Started with what seemed to be a lower UTI with discharge, with severe pain in the head of my penis. Severe penile glans pain (made me cry!) continued, with urethra pain and burning (entire length of my urethra right into my body), bladder pain, burning and sensitive skin above my pubic area, burning seems to travel my legs, and sometimes found in my feet. Pins and needles feeling in my penis and testicles, feet and legs, burning in my groin and penis and testicles. One occasion of numb genitals. Helped by: time and patience, and amytriptyline. Tried antibiotics, prednisolone + Prosta-Q, zinc, Vit C, fish oil, flaxseed, garlic tabs, l-carnitine, cranberry, and broccoli protocol. Worsened by: worry.
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I'll soon be 6 months into CPPS, and have seen some changes - the terrible burning and nerve pain in the head of my penis has subsided, and I am left with some irritation, subtle pain, and some red marks on the head. I've been trying internal work, but I often think I have no idea what I am doing. I also have been doing the stretches according to Anderson and Wise. The symptom I can't shake is this stinging and burning in my suprapubic area, and my lower abdomen (from hip to hip), which sometimes travels to my groin and legs. Reading on this site, I see others who have had this, and just wondering what solutions have been found? I find it is worse while sitting, and the stretches offer some short-term relief - is it a case of battling on, or should I be doing something more specific?
Age: 37 | Onset Age: 37 | Symptoms: Started with what seemed to be a lower UTI with discharge, with severe pain in the head of my penis. Severe penile glans pain (made me cry!) continued, with urethra pain and burning (entire length of my urethra right into my body), bladder pain, burning and sensitive skin above my pubic area, burning seems to travel my legs, and sometimes found in my feet. Pins and needles feeling in my penis and testicles, feet and legs, burning in my groin and penis and testicles. One occasion of numb genitals. Helped by: time and patience, and amytriptyline. Tried antibiotics, prednisolone + Prosta-Q, zinc, Vit C, fish oil, flaxseed, garlic tabs, l-carnitine, cranberry, and broccoli protocol. Worsened by: worry.
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Re: Newbie (Pete123's Case)

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I also saw this product : http://www.painkillernormast.com/palmit ... treatment/
advertised on some IC groups on facebook.
Also this one: http://www.ergomaxsupplements.com/pelvilen-forte

Palmitoylethanolamide is the ingredient on both.

I have started taking something called Cistalgan (200mg flavossato + 250mg propifenazone)
Not much to say about it though.

Maybe webslave can give an opinion on the above...
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