Will the Waste of Money Never stop?

[webslave]

I see with anger that Krieger et al at UWA are still wasting precious NIH research money on pointless bacterial studies with CP/CPPS.



How many more dollars is the NIH/NIDDK going to squander on this?

In the lastest study, a complete debacle IMO, Krieger bravely went forth to find (without controls) that real-time PCR detects bacterial traces in 26% of men with CP/CPPS (which is virtually exactly what is found in controls in other studies), and of that 26%, less than half (or ~10% of the men studied) had traces of E. coli, a bug normally found in the gut. (One wonders how many of these men had recently had anal inercourse with their wives or partners.)

Instead of seeing these inconclusive results as a good reason to stop wasting our research money on this avenue of research, the authors find this highly promising and cause for lots of further funding and research Talk about feathering your own nest!

[tractor316]

If bacteria was the cause of all our problems I do not think you would see 3-4 new people signing up here daily . We would all be cured with antibiotics !!!!!! We need the movers and shakers to get this condition and maybe they could put pressure on these wasted fact finding studies and get to the real causes of this condition . Makes for an even more frustating condition with this going on ....

[jd]

So what's the relationship between this University of Washington study

https://ucpps.men

showing that Bacteria is not involved with Prostatitis, and the one you refer here?

Dr. Krieger and Berger work for the same group, plus Dr. Berger recieved some hefty contributions from one of the owners of Microsoft

[webslave]

I have high respect for Dr Berger. Just because two researchers work at the same university does not mean they see eye-to-eye. That's all I'll say on this.

[jd]

I have high respect for Dr Berger. Just because two researchers work at the same university does not mean they see eye-to-eye. That's all I'll say on this.

yeah Dr. Berger is the man, he's been fighting for and researching our cause for years

I wouldn't be *too* upset about this, it's only a matter of time before the Jerome Weiss/Stanford/Wise-Anderson Protocol etc starts getting more mainstream publicity and eventually scientific validation(hopefully Stanford gets some of that 3.2 million dollars from the NIH this year for clinical trails, that would be EXCELLENT), which seems to have already started esp with the release of A Headache in the Pelvis....the word is definitely spreading fast in this day of instant information/communication.

We're no longer in the period where your 5 minutes with your Uro is your only hope for relief.