What do you think?

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carbonevo
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What do you think?

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The following post I read on the TMS site, written by Dr.Howard Schubiner
Dr. Lorimer Moseley is a leading pain researcher whose work is dedicated to understanding and explaining pain (see Butler and Moseley, Explain Pain, 2003 and Moseley, Painful Yarns, 2007). In Painful Yarns, he tells a story from his own life that helps us understand important mechanisms of pain. As a young boy, Lorimer took hikes in the country and frequently came home with lots of nicks and scrapes on his legs. Although his mother was alarmed, they never bothered him or hurt him. [bravo!] While on a hike at age twenty-five, he got nicked on the Leg and kept walking not thinking anything of it. When he got home, he saw fang marks fo the very poisonous Eastern Brown snake and found his left leg to be very swollen and painful. He spent several days in the hospital recovering from the bite and the left leg pain subsided. Five years later, he was walking in apark and noted a nick on his leg. He immediately fell to the ground experiencing a great deal of pain that was all the way up and down his left leg. He was rushed to a hsoptial only to find that he simply had a scrape, not a snake bite. Why all the pain? When he was a boy, his brain disregarded the mild pain from nicks and scrapes because they were interpreted as "not dangerous" and simply part of the enjoyment of walking in the country. However, after the life threatening situation with the snakebite, his brian now interpreted a small scrape as "very dangerous" and activated the same pain pathways that were learned five years earlier.

What is amazing is that the pain after a small scrape on Lorimer's leg lasted for two weeks. He's a pain researcher; he understands pain; he knew that nerve pathways rather than tissue damage caused his whole leg to feel real pain; yet the pain persisted for two weeks! The nerve patterns were activated and took a while to calm down and reverse, which they eventually did. But what might have happened if he didn't understand pain, and after one week he went to his doctor and asked, 'Why am I still having so much pain from a small scrape? The doctor might say, "Oh, I'm afraid that you might have "post-snake bite venom" syndrome. It's a chronic disorder. We don't know what causes it and we have no effective treatment for it." This is exactly the situation that occurs to people with fibromyalgia, whiplash, and chronic fatigue syndrome. The labeling of these disorders as being chronic and incurable leads to more fear, more resentment, and more pain. Another factor can greatly activate pain pathways. What if, during those two weeks after the scrape, something was happening in Lorimer's life: maybe his son got arrested, his mother passed away, or his wife had an affair. Emotions associated with those events trigger the same brain pathways that activate pain thus turning what would have been a self-limited disorder into a chronic one with little hope of cure.

Imo it perfectly describes chronic pains including CPPS! a small infection or injury turning into years of pain and misery.
Onset Age: 23 , Current Age: 24 Symptoms: Pain in butt/ prostate area, buttocks when sitting for long, pain during sex - especially erections were very painful... pain moved slowly to the left side after reading about the PNE bullcrap. Helped By: Relaxation, massage (temporary relief), the real difference made for me understanding that this is induced by the Brain/Central nervous system as tension, therefore addressing the tension psychologically, not physically. During flare ups I use a strong dose of tramadol - 100mg extended release, works magic for me. If your symptoms improve when distracted or during vacations and stress worsens your symptoms I urge you to:
* Read John Sarno's books
* Read Ezer's story on this site.
* Explore the TMSwiki site and read every single success story there. (even the non CPPS)
* Pay a special attention to Alan Gordon's posts.
* Read Clair Weeks book Hope and help for your nerves (apply the concepts to CPPS).
Current status: more or less cured if stressful events and emotional conflicts did not flare up my symptoms. This does not affect my life in any aspect anymore, because I dont allow it to.
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Re: What do you think?

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That's a pretty interesting theory, and one that would make a lot of sense
Age: 43 | Onset Age: 33 | Symptoms: Burning in urethra and tip of penis at meatus. Lower back pain and occasional dull ache in groin & testicles. Pain in coccyx and left side buttock when sitting | Medication: Quercetin 1000mg, Omega 3, Turmeric 1500mg, Shilajit Extract 400mg, Ashwagandha 920mg, Glucosamine/Condroitin | Helped By: stretching, rest, light exercise, sitz baths | Worsened By: sitting for long periods of time, driving, stressful situations | Comments: I'm 90% better and don't experience much burning anymore, but get the occasional flare. My main problem now is the sitting pain, which can be quite debilitating at times. I'm sure it's something to do with the exercises & stretching I've been doing as I didn't have this problem a year ago!