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How long is one meant to stay on supplements such as Algonot? 1 year or so? Longer? I'm willing to try Algonot Plus, I just don't want to end up having to take something "forever".
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If it helps you, why wouldnt you want to continue taking it? Obviously a cure would be preferable, and that may be possible one day soon.

On the other hand, I took any accredited quercetin product for a few months and was permanently improved by the experience. I no longer use it because I do not have pain. Maybe that can reassure you.
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webslave wrote: On the other hand, I took any accredited quercetin product for a few months and was permanently improved by the experience. I no longer use it because I do not have pain. Maybe that can reassure you.
Do you mean that any accredited quercetin product alone eliminated your pain?
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My pain was about 2 on a 1-10 scale. I managed to reduce the pain from 9 in 1991 by: passage of time, low stress, allergen avoidance (wheat!), and a period in 1993 where I dropped my pain from 9 to 5 using internal self-massage with a solid high-tensile acrylic baton. Looks like I "knew" about the Stanford/Weiss protocol a long time before they did :simsim:
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If something helps I would not mind taking it "forever", I just don't particularly like the idea of having to rely on one company's product to relieve me of this.
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Gabriel,

Here's how I see it. Quercetin definitely helps a lot of people. In my experience -- it was the most effective of many supplements that I used to extinguish inflammation.

Algonot (in my view) is simply the best currently available form of Quercetin -- owing to Dr. Theoharides method of making it more "bioavailable". (Yes... I read all the exchanges way back about the fact that this may not yet have been confirmed by double-blind studies. Call me gullible, but I believe Dr. Theoharides). The thing is, Algonot is not significantly more expensive than other reputable formulations of Quercetin.

Obviously we all must all make economic decisions, but you prioritize based on what works for you.

I took Algonot for a number of months. And then when inflammation subsided, I stopped. But now I am going back to it because I believe it will help me with the (apparently) inflammatory aspect of Central Sensitization.
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Thanks for the reply TK. Did you notice any side effects from taking Algonot?
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No side effects (that I could distinguish) from Taking Algonot.

I am not suggesting a casual approach toward taking nutritional supplements. We all know about the cases where particular supplements have proven to be harmful. Of course there are situations where a particular substance is harmful to a subset of individuals; also instances where supplement X should not be used in conjunction with supplement or pharmaceutical Y.

I don't want to oversimplify, but...the ingredients in Algonot are essentially:
Quercetin -- formulated within a particular form of olive seed oil to make it more bioavailable.

Glucosamine and Chondroitin -- are widely used today by millions of people for Arthritis and a range of other conditions. I am not aware of any side effects... but you should look this up for yourself.

Quercetin is also generally recognized as safe. But again, look it up.

Re Quercetin, one caution has been restated many times on this website and elsewhere.Those who are taking Quinalone Antibiotics -- Levaquin, Cipro, etc -- should be aware that Quercetin might "compete" with the antibiotics in ways that could specificly inhibit antibacterial action. So anyone taking Quinalones should avoid Quercetin on general principles.

(Of course one might take the position that the Quinalone Antibiotics are known to have anti-inflammatory effects and that these effects are -- for most people -- more significant than the anti-bacterial activity. Still, if you're taking these antibiotics, probably better to lay off the Quercetin.)

In summary I'd say that Algonot is generally very safe. Verify this for yourself with some careful internet searches.

Also the Algonot Website contains good info. Generally speaking, there is good reason to be skeptical about information that comes from people who are selling something. But in the case of Algonot, we are talking about Dr. Theoharides (and other members of his advisory team). While I hope that they do enjoy some financial rewards for their research efforts, I am satisfied that these are people of the highest integrity, whose motives are beyond the usual suspicions. These are the good guys, the real thing!

P.S. Although I personally favor Algonot because I accept the proposition that it is more bioavalable, I also think any accredited quercetin product is an excellent product. In a way, the folks at Quercetin suppliers and Algonot have been partners in bringing us the benefits of these formulations.
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