Have been battling CPP for quite a while- had a 4 year absence and now it's back (since Jan). It went away after a run of antibiotics. A week passed and it came back. The doc prescribed Cardura (sp) and after 3 weeks I felt ok to the point that I really had forgotten about it. Just yesterday I started thinking about it more (checked out this forum etc) and boom-pains back today (not as severe, but "noticable"). Could a lot of this be in our heads? I beginning to think if I ignore it, it will go away.
Hope I'm right-but I beter stay on the Cardura just in case... same with the brocolli broth..
Todd
Is a lot of it in our minds?
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David Wise talks a lot about how our attitudes can interrupt the deep muscle relaxation in the pelvis. It's difficult to unlearn.
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No, it's not in your head. But it is self-perpetuating. Every time it hurts, you think it's going to hurt again next time. That causes stress, which, in turn, causes more stress; thus more pain...and so on.
How can we break the cycle?
Have you read "The Mind-Body Prescription," by Dr. John Sarno? He talks about chronic pain as a function of "repressed unconscious feelings." The book did not help me, but it's worth a look (IMHO).
Also, as Mark mentioned, "A Headache in the Pelvis" (Dr. Wise) introduces "paradoxical relaxation" techniques.
MS
How can we break the cycle?
Have you read "The Mind-Body Prescription," by Dr. John Sarno? He talks about chronic pain as a function of "repressed unconscious feelings." The book did not help me, but it's worth a look (IMHO).
Also, as Mark mentioned, "A Headache in the Pelvis" (Dr. Wise) introduces "paradoxical relaxation" techniques.
MS
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Re: Is a lot of it in our minds?
No. But as the posts above point out, stress and anxiety can definitely exaccerbate the condition.tstclr wrote:Could a lot of this be in our heads?
This is not Medical advice - Consult your Doctor!
Age:39. Age at onset:31. Symptoms prior to treatment: Golf ball in rectum, severe urinary frequency (2-3x/hr; 5-10x/night); weak stream; painful ejaculation; coccygeal pain; tip of penis pain; general pelvic pain on left; testicular pain; supra-pubic pain. Current | Symptoms: Urinary frequency 1x every 2-3 hrs and 1-2 x a night; mild pelvic pain on left hand side (all symptoms still improving!)
Helped by: Trigger point release; avoiding exercise; pelvic floor relaxation; Neurontin decreased bladder sensitivity somewhat. Worsened by: Exercise; frequent ejaculation; ibuprofen irritates bladder. Made no difference: Diet; biofeedback; quercetin; Steroid anti-inflammatories; Elavil.
****UPDATE*** I am now able to sit again at work all day, and can perform moderate aerobic exersise again for the first time in 8 years!!!
Please read:
viewtopic.php?f=37&t=808&p=3954
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=239&p=1158
viewtopic.php?f=37&t=248&p=1214
Age:39. Age at onset:31. Symptoms prior to treatment: Golf ball in rectum, severe urinary frequency (2-3x/hr; 5-10x/night); weak stream; painful ejaculation; coccygeal pain; tip of penis pain; general pelvic pain on left; testicular pain; supra-pubic pain. Current | Symptoms: Urinary frequency 1x every 2-3 hrs and 1-2 x a night; mild pelvic pain on left hand side (all symptoms still improving!)
Helped by: Trigger point release; avoiding exercise; pelvic floor relaxation; Neurontin decreased bladder sensitivity somewhat. Worsened by: Exercise; frequent ejaculation; ibuprofen irritates bladder. Made no difference: Diet; biofeedback; quercetin; Steroid anti-inflammatories; Elavil.
****UPDATE*** I am now able to sit again at work all day, and can perform moderate aerobic exersise again for the first time in 8 years!!!
Please read:
viewtopic.php?f=37&t=808&p=3954
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=239&p=1158
viewtopic.php?f=37&t=248&p=1214
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I don't think its all mental but I do notice that my stress level does have an influence.
I'm thinking my problems are more related to a muscle tension problem around the neck of the bladder than in the actual prostate. But then again what do I really know? Not much more than any Uro has told me.
Relaxation and stretching does seem to help *knock on wood*
I'm thinking my problems are more related to a muscle tension problem around the neck of the bladder than in the actual prostate. But then again what do I really know? Not much more than any Uro has told me.
Relaxation and stretching does seem to help *knock on wood*
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Re: Is a lot of it in our minds?
My sister is a psychologist and researcher, and she tries to convince me that all of my CP/IC symptoms are "in my head." She was also against my taking Effexor XR and Ativan for anxiety (the drugs that make my life bearable); she thinks cognitive behavioral therapy is the answer to everything.tstclr wrote:Could a lot of this be in our heads?
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MastCells: Whilst reading up about Remerol (another newish antidepressant) I noticed that there is experimental evidence that both Effexor and Remerol can desensitize the brain to stress. Which is nice.She was also against my taking Effexor XR
Richard
Age: 39. | Onset Age: 30. Onset Date: January 2002. Symptoms (back then): Supra-pubic pain, back pain, urinary frequency, urgency and difficulty, weak stream, nocturia, (and variously) chronic fatigue, IBS. Current symptoms: more frequent than normal, but pretty much under control. Current amelioration: Xatral 10mg, Mirtazapine 30mg. | Worsened By: Stress, binge drinking, strained bowel movements, bloating, sitting on hard surfaces, jogging, and regularly - THE WINTER!
I'm not a medical expert. My comment is opinion. See your medical professional.
Age: 39. | Onset Age: 30. Onset Date: January 2002. Symptoms (back then): Supra-pubic pain, back pain, urinary frequency, urgency and difficulty, weak stream, nocturia, (and variously) chronic fatigue, IBS. Current symptoms: more frequent than normal, but pretty much under control. Current amelioration: Xatral 10mg, Mirtazapine 30mg. | Worsened By: Stress, binge drinking, strained bowel movements, bloating, sitting on hard surfaces, jogging, and regularly - THE WINTER!
I'm not a medical expert. My comment is opinion. See your medical professional.
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Richard, if you read about this effect of venlafaxine on the web or medline, could you post or email me the URL to the source? Thanks!Richard.N wrote:MastCells: Whilst reading up about Remerol (another newish antidepressant) I noticed that there is experimental evidence that both Effexor and Remerol can desensitize the brain to stress. Which is nice.
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Hi MastCells,
Apologies - I got two abstracts kind of muddled in my glee about what a great drug Remerol is...here are the two abstrcts anyway:
"Prevention of the stress-induced increase in the concentration of neuroactive steroids in rat brain by long-term administration of mirtazapine but not of fluoxetine."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer ... t=Abstract
"Venlafaxine and mirtazapine: different mechanisms of antidepressant action, common opioid-mediated antinociceptive effects--a possible opioid involvement in severe depression?"
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer ... t=Abstract
Apologies - I got two abstracts kind of muddled in my glee about what a great drug Remerol is...here are the two abstrcts anyway:
"Prevention of the stress-induced increase in the concentration of neuroactive steroids in rat brain by long-term administration of mirtazapine but not of fluoxetine."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer ... t=Abstract
"Venlafaxine and mirtazapine: different mechanisms of antidepressant action, common opioid-mediated antinociceptive effects--a possible opioid involvement in severe depression?"
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer ... t=Abstract
Richard
Age: 39. | Onset Age: 30. Onset Date: January 2002. Symptoms (back then): Supra-pubic pain, back pain, urinary frequency, urgency and difficulty, weak stream, nocturia, (and variously) chronic fatigue, IBS. Current symptoms: more frequent than normal, but pretty much under control. Current amelioration: Xatral 10mg, Mirtazapine 30mg. | Worsened By: Stress, binge drinking, strained bowel movements, bloating, sitting on hard surfaces, jogging, and regularly - THE WINTER!
I'm not a medical expert. My comment is opinion. See your medical professional.
Age: 39. | Onset Age: 30. Onset Date: January 2002. Symptoms (back then): Supra-pubic pain, back pain, urinary frequency, urgency and difficulty, weak stream, nocturia, (and variously) chronic fatigue, IBS. Current symptoms: more frequent than normal, but pretty much under control. Current amelioration: Xatral 10mg, Mirtazapine 30mg. | Worsened By: Stress, binge drinking, strained bowel movements, bloating, sitting on hard surfaces, jogging, and regularly - THE WINTER!
I'm not a medical expert. My comment is opinion. See your medical professional.