Botox at stanford pain management(need trigger point map)

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Botox at stanford pain management(need trigger point map)

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Just thought I would post my conversation with the doctor at stanford pain management. They just said that they need trigger point map from someone (either the PT or the patient). Further they will first inject a local anasthetic and then Botox later. Does not look very encouraging. I forgot to ask if they have done Botox on similar patients.
Age:36 | Onset Age: 31 (chronic incomplete evacuation since 29) | Symptoms: Anal fissure (3); Pain in the rectum. Left Testicular pain started in August 2007. Professional PT (5 sessions) in June 2007. Stanford/Wise-Anderson Protocol in July 2007. Back to professional PT from Dec 17 2007 onwards twice a week; Dry needling once a week since March 06 2008. | Helped By: Sleeping; lying down; Thermotex infrared heating pad | Worsened By: Any activity; Medications Lyrica 75 mg* 2, Elavil 10mg Supplements; Cod liver oil ; Natural calm started 02/15; Vitamin B12 started 02/16;Vitamin D 1000U 03//08;Glucosamine+hyaluronic acid+MSM 04/08 Bed ridden since August 2007; Working from bed since Dec 2007 ;Botox done 100 units 04/03/08;RAST for wheat/rye/oats/milk -ve. Dairy free since 04/20/08. Gluten free since 04/25/08;Tried without success so far: Baclofen, PEMF machines, pranic healing reiki ;
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Re: Botox at stanford pain management(need trigger point map)

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ramana wrote:Just thought I would post my conversation with the doctor at stanford pain management. They just said that they need trigger point map from someone (either the PT or the patient). Further they will first inject a local anasthetic and then Botox later. Does not look very encouraging. I forgot to ask if they have done Botox on similar patients.
Hi Ramana,

What's the part that doesn't look encouraging?
Started: Spring 2003; high urinary frequency and pain associated with bladder filling; urinary hesitancy; pubic/prostate/perineal discomfort; Helped by: trigger point therapy, Afrin nasal spray, Cymbalta, hydrocodone (small doses), distraction. Makes worse: sex.

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Re: Botox at stanford pain management(need trigger point map)

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Sorry I assumed it was self evident or maybe I am wrong. The doctor asked me to point at places where it hurts. I said it hurts internally in the rectum. Then he said get a trigger point map from the PT. From my experience, it seems that trigger points can change e.g when I went to Dr Wise clinic, I had a major flare up and Tim put trigger point all over the place. Few months later, I don't have that much pain and the trigger points are much reduced. My understandig is that someone should be able to decide on which muscles to inject, not just the trigger points which keep on changing.(until the trigger points are localized to one muscle)

Kevin - did you get to see Dr Weiss?
Age:36 | Onset Age: 31 (chronic incomplete evacuation since 29) | Symptoms: Anal fissure (3); Pain in the rectum. Left Testicular pain started in August 2007. Professional PT (5 sessions) in June 2007. Stanford/Wise-Anderson Protocol in July 2007. Back to professional PT from Dec 17 2007 onwards twice a week; Dry needling once a week since March 06 2008. | Helped By: Sleeping; lying down; Thermotex infrared heating pad | Worsened By: Any activity; Medications Lyrica 75 mg* 2, Elavil 10mg Supplements; Cod liver oil ; Natural calm started 02/15; Vitamin B12 started 02/16;Vitamin D 1000U 03//08;Glucosamine+hyaluronic acid+MSM 04/08 Bed ridden since August 2007; Working from bed since Dec 2007 ;Botox done 100 units 04/03/08;RAST for wheat/rye/oats/milk -ve. Dairy free since 04/20/08. Gluten free since 04/25/08;Tried without success so far: Baclofen, PEMF machines, pranic healing reiki ;
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Re: Botox at stanford pain management(need trigger point map)

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I haven't seen Dr. Weiss yet.
Started: Spring 2003; high urinary frequency and pain associated with bladder filling; urinary hesitancy; pubic/prostate/perineal discomfort; Helped by: trigger point therapy, Afrin nasal spray, Cymbalta, hydrocodone (small doses), distraction. Makes worse: sex.

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