You just can't underestimate those abs

[scoobysnacks]

This week was my most stressful week of my professional life. In a nutshell we were purchasing a 1.4 million property out of state, it was up to me to make it go smooth. Despite numerous calls between I and our lender and the title company's attorney regarding what they wanted to see from the company I set up in our state I was not informed that prior to the Closing we had to be qualified in the other state. Needless to say, this caused much problems with getting the funds from the lender. My company had to use its credit line to purchase the building so we didn't breach the contract we had with the seller to close.

I've had to do somersaults to get the proper paperwork in on time. It was a nightmare.

During this period I could actually feel myself holding my abs in right at the diaphram (just below the rib cage). So I started to do trigger point release on that area in my office and really stretch. This made my symptoms improve drastically.

Since then I've been doing nothing but focusing on this trouble area and trying to keep my abs relaxed and this has been my best week so far in the recovery.

So now I've been stretching abs and doing trp release every hour at work for a few minutes, really seems to be helping.

The worst area is under my ribcage on the right side, which makes sense because my right side internally is way more sore and stiff than my left. Actually I rarely treat my left side anymore.

Immediately upon really working this area VERY deeply and then stretching I can feel the perineum release, its a weird sensation, but feels normal. I think my body is adjusting to normal again.

After working out, I take time on the mat and hit this area, and I had no symptoms last night after my workout.

My belief is that the abs have been chronically tightening since early college. I remember this area hurting and actually going to the ER thinking I had drank myself into some sort of liver damage, lol. Of course everything came back fine, but I continually had pain here for years to come.

I think this area tensing up then went down to pull up on the pelvic floor and it finally seized up. Now that I have worked the pelvic floor I need to get this trigger point out of the diaphragm upper ab on my right side. I think once this goes, this condition will go with it.

Its no wonder when I'm getting ready my pelvic floor tenses up, because I can now feel how I immediately pull in my abs still in this area. I thought I had fixed it, but nope, I'm still doing it, and its largely from this trigger point in my abs.

Tim sawyer said my diaphragm was jacked up, I thought the trps were gone, but they certainly are not in this area. I can see that now.

Regards,

Ss

[carld]

I have a very sore spot on the right side of my abs about 2" to the right of my bellybutton and 3-4" down from there on my lower rt side abs. I too have always held in my stomach since I was a kid, until I learned about this condition. I have pressed those areas and when I started to feel the fugax feeling come on in my perineum and shooting discomfort has gone through my pelvis like a fugax feeling to the tip of my unit. Amazing how our stomachs can effect our pelvis. I will work those soar spots until they loosen up.


Regards, Carl...

[carld]

Can sore muscles and or TP's in our abs cause LUTS or frequency and discomfort in the perineum I think this is what's happening to me???Can someone shed some light here.

[scoobysnacks]

I think we are proof they can.

I would not underestimate those areas. Work them and stretch them. I bought a mini hand held massager so I can do these at work. But my fingers work just as well, if not better to really get in there.

I have a little discomfort on the right side in those areas as well, but I attribute that to the intense tension higher up as those dont seem to effect me or refer any pain anywhere.

Good Luck!

Ss

[GP2]

Guys,

Rolling my stomach over a tennis ball on top of a piece of wood works wonders for releasing my abdominal TPs. I really reccommend it!

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I could actually feel myself holding my abs in right at the diaphram (just below the rib cage). So I started to do trigger point release on that area in my office and really stretch. This made my symptoms improve drastically.

The worst area is under my ribcage on the right side, which makes sense because my right side internally is way more soar and stiff than my left. Actually I rarely treat my left side anymore.

word for word thats EXACTLY the same on me!....I've just started today doing this area 5/6 times a day and see how things go...funny when I treat that right side just under the rib cage on the diaphragm my whole stomach feels like its opening up and I can breath far better and I'm sure this lets the pelvis drop more

[Caretaker]

I tried to do around 100 situps per day in the last week and I had a pretty good week. I think it`s possible that those abs need to be reinforced to prevent your internal organs to put pressure on your pelvic floor.

CT

[mbaker]

Actually Abs is a misnomer. Most people think of their Rectus Abdominus muscles (the six-pack) as their abs. They don't do much to assist the pelvic floor. The ones you want are the Transverse Abdominal muscles. These are much deeper than the Rectus and form a girdle around your mid-section. They support the spine and assist the pelvic floor. They are often referred to as "core" muscles. There are specific exercises for them, but situps aren't among them.

--mb

[PagesOfTime]

This might sound ridiculous, (but we're already sticking our thumbs up our rears so what the hell ) ....but has anybody ever tried using a vacuum on their abs? ....and by that, yes, I mean like a household vacuum cleaner to suck, pull, and loosen up the skin. It seems to me that would have a similar effect as skin rolling but maybe stronger...just don't use such a high powered vacuum that you end up ripping your skin off.

Again, I know this might sound stupid, crazy, or whatever, but it's something I thought about the other day and I think I was thinking of giving it a shot this weekend.

Certainly NOT medical advise

[flump]

scooby do you find that you can release those ab trigger points then they come right back through out the day...

i`ve been releasing them 6 times a day all feels lose then they come back within the hr easy

[scoobysnacks]

Not right away, but yes they do, however, not as bad as they once were. It was once so tight up under the diaphram that I couldnt get a finger under there.

Try this stretch. Grab the top of the door frame and slightly bend your lower back inward, the abs will really stretch. I can feel it all the way down into my pelvis, I do this at work constantly.

Good Luck,

Ss

[HelpADude]

Actually Abs is a misnomer. Most people think of their Rectus Abdominus muscles (the six-pack) as their abs. They don't do much to assist the pelvic floor. The ones you want are the Transverse Abdominal muscles. These are much deeper than the Rectus and form a girdle around your mid-section. They support the spine and assist the pelvic floor. They are often referred to as "core" muscles. There are specific exercises for them, but situps aren't among them.

--mb

Can you point to any exercises? Thanks

[mbaker]

Basically you tense your lower abdomen as though you were trying to put on a tight fitting pair of pants (too small for your gut). You do these lying on the floor and hold for 10s doing sets of them. This is a very broad overview of what you do. I would suggest reading the book:


to learn more about the transverse abs. Remember, you don't want to work rectus muscles, you want the transverse abs. In most people these are weak yet they assist the pelvic floor. So if they're weak, it puts more strain on the pelvic floor muscles to do more of the work.

btw, I wrote another post a while back on this. Do a search for "transverse" to find it.

Hope this helps,
MB