rectal biofeedback
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holms
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rectal biofeedback
can anyone describe what does rectal biofeedback means and who does it ( I mean urologist or PT), I actualy do not realy think that it can be done hear in Ukraine .?
Age: Onset age: Suffer SPPs for two years, pain every day, weak urination, pain in perineum, lower abdominal,pain at tip of the penis. Worsened: unknown reason, ejeculation, urination
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LightningTree
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Hey holms,
PTs who treat female incontinence are the ones most commonly trained to do this kind of thing. They help older women train their rectal muscles to be stronger and to stay clenched shut.
Conversely, they teach me to stop clenching my muscles tight.
Generally, they have the equipment, which is a small voltage/current meter hooked up to a laptop computer. Despite the fact that this is not high-tech, the companies charge massive amounts of money for them and the software to read and graph the meter. (once there was a thunder storm that messed up the graph. They don't even RF shield the thing and they charge thousands of dollars!)
You also get a small rectal sensor. This is essentially a bland looking butt plug, to put it bluntly, with a wire sticking out of the bottom. You go in the bathroom, insert it, and come back (fully dressed). Then you lie down and they run the software. The computer tells you to contract, then relax, and it repeats for however long they want to run a session.
The plug is a cheap part that you get to keep. (You don't have to share !)
The display feedback can be set up in various ways. I mostly focus on a meter that shows the muscle activity. It is very locally sensative. I have tried doing jumping jacks and wiggling my hips and breathing in and out through the stomach. None of this changes the meter reading. The only thing it picks up is how tight you squeeze your anus. This is both good and bad. It is good because there is no noise to mess up the results. But it is bad because it cannot detect tension in your other pelvic muscles.
I remember once I was doing really well. I had reduced my tension in the anus considerably. I had the graph down to 4 or 5 (milliwhatever the units are) and then the PT came back in the room and stared over my shoulder. Performance anxiety kicked in and I couldn't get below an 8. I could not physically feel the difference.
This might seem stupid. But, if, like me, you are far to anal
, then learning to relax your asshole 
, is important in calming down your hypertonic muscles and in learning how to relax when you can't feel the relaxation. (Later you learn to identify the sensation) Finally it is an education in understanding just how much tension we carry that feels 'natural' to us but would feel tight to a non-anal person. IF you have rectal tension like I do, then you have to get used to the 'weird' feeling of relaxing your butt.
There is no guarantee that you would have anal tension just because you have CPPS. Some people get null results.
PTs who treat female incontinence are the ones most commonly trained to do this kind of thing. They help older women train their rectal muscles to be stronger and to stay clenched shut.
Conversely, they teach me to stop clenching my muscles tight.
Generally, they have the equipment, which is a small voltage/current meter hooked up to a laptop computer. Despite the fact that this is not high-tech, the companies charge massive amounts of money for them and the software to read and graph the meter. (once there was a thunder storm that messed up the graph. They don't even RF shield the thing and they charge thousands of dollars!)
You also get a small rectal sensor. This is essentially a bland looking butt plug, to put it bluntly, with a wire sticking out of the bottom. You go in the bathroom, insert it, and come back (fully dressed). Then you lie down and they run the software. The computer tells you to contract, then relax, and it repeats for however long they want to run a session.
The plug is a cheap part that you get to keep. (You don't have to share !)
The display feedback can be set up in various ways. I mostly focus on a meter that shows the muscle activity. It is very locally sensative. I have tried doing jumping jacks and wiggling my hips and breathing in and out through the stomach. None of this changes the meter reading. The only thing it picks up is how tight you squeeze your anus. This is both good and bad. It is good because there is no noise to mess up the results. But it is bad because it cannot detect tension in your other pelvic muscles.
I remember once I was doing really well. I had reduced my tension in the anus considerably. I had the graph down to 4 or 5 (milliwhatever the units are) and then the PT came back in the room and stared over my shoulder. Performance anxiety kicked in and I couldn't get below an 8. I could not physically feel the difference.
This might seem stupid. But, if, like me, you are far to anal
, then learning to relax your asshole , is important in calming down your hypertonic muscles and in learning how to relax when you can't feel the relaxation. (Later you learn to identify the sensation) Finally it is an education in understanding just how much tension we carry that feels 'natural' to us but would feel tight to a non-anal person. IF you have rectal tension like I do, then you have to get used to the 'weird' feeling of relaxing your butt.There is no guarantee that you would have anal tension just because you have CPPS. Some people get null results.
This is not medical advice, and I am NOT a doctor of medicine or a related field.
* Age:33 Onset: February 2004.
* 99.9% IMPROVEMENT in 2.5 Years with the first year being the really hard part
* Current Symptoms: Mild irritation of perineal muscles on occasion. Relieved for days at a time by a specific stretch (see below).
* Initial Symptoms: Terrible penile, urethral, rectal, and perineal burning/aching with addition afferent sensations.
* Current Treatments: Deep stretching of the legs and pelvis. Most effective: Deep psoas and levitar ani stretch using the first phase of the "pigeon pose" from Yoga. When a deep pulling is felt in the middle of the pelvis next to the upper rectum, symptoms are completely alleviated for several days.
* Past Treatments Hyperprotection of the perineum for 1.7 years, Walking, Rectal biofeedback, Stanford/Wise-Anderson Protocol, Conditioned deep relaxation practice, Men's Multi-Vitamin and an Extra B-complex pill, all seemed to help.
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holms
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