They have weight loss summer camps. Why not for chronic prostatitis / chronic pelvic pain syndrome victims? I could be the the camp counselor! Here would be my protocol. I think I could improve everyone's pain by 50-80% in one month.
First of all, doctors are neither invited or allowed on the camp grounds. Also, Cipro and all other medications are disallowed. You may however bring a one-months supply of any accredited quercetin product or any herb or supplement that you believe promotes muscle relaxation. Also, no pornographic magazines are allowed.
Daily schedule:
1. 7:00 am -- wake up; breakfast
2. 8:00 am -- undergo a quick chiropractic adjustment to your L3 and L4 vertebrea....provided by your friendly camp chiropractor.
3. 10:00 am -- Put on your running shoes. We're going for a walk/jog/run around the lake...and maybe up the mountain. Beware, we will have occasional short bursts of speed to really get your heart rate up. Be sure and bring a small snack. We'll be gone for a while.
4. 11:30 am -- Immediately upon return, we'll stretch out all our pelvic muscles and hamstrings.
5. 1:00 pm -- After a quick shower, we'll each spend 15-20 minutes with our lower body submerged in the hot tub.
6. 1:30 pm -- Lunch
7. 3:00 pm -- The camp massage therapist will then administer a complete, relaxing 30 minute lower stomach massage. Don't worry. Pain is a good thing. It will slowly subside over the days.
8. 5:00 pm -- Next we have 45 minutes of nothing but silent relaxation. This is time where you think about nothing. You don't have bills. You don't have a hectic job. You don't have sick parents or screaming kids. All you have is that moment in time.
9. 6:00 pm -- dinner
10. 8:00 pm -- hot bath followed by prostate massage with your instrument of choice. Or, if you prefer, one of the camp's physical therapists would be glad to apply trigger point therapy.
11. 10:00 pm -- Want sex? Forget about it. Put it out of your mind. You can't get off until the weekend. Once per week is all you really need. More than that is probably exaserbating your symptoms at this point.
After 1 month of camp, there's never really a need to return to your doctor regarding your pain because you've learned to deal with it yourself. Besides, by now you probably realize that doctors have got good health all wrong anyway. For instance, if you have a headache is your body lacking acetaminophen? No. If you have cancer, is your body lacking chemotherapy or radiation treatments? Definatley No. If you have high cholesterol is your body needing more statin drugs? No. If you have depression is your body craving SRSIs? Nah. Likewise, If you have pelvic pain is your body starving for Cipro or any other antibiotic?? No.
Or, how many silly doctors have removed the entire prostate, only to have the patient's symptoms stay the same or worsen?
Pelvic pain is a symptom. Probably it's a result of a lack of circulation and oxygen to the muscles in the pelvic region. Your job is to improve circulation in that area as much as possible. Good luck, Tom
Summer Camp for CPPS
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londoner
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winding_road
Superhero wrote :
All this to say, that we never should cut the link between us and the doctors. They still have a lot to learn from us so that we can learn from them afterward. You would be surprised of how little they know about our
daily struggles... and if such camp would ever exist this would be a prefect opportunity for them to look at us through their microscopes...:)
When you guys see your Uros and GPs it would be very helpful if you correct them when they r wrong, and tell them more about the real situation. As an example my GP was telling me ( and to most of his prostatitis patients) that masturbation is good. I felt undomfortable correcting him, but finally decided to do so... and I think now he would have to think twice about his theories of Flushing the toxins
I get the impression sometimes that somes guys on the forum think that the problem is solved, and all we need is those golden rules (you mentionned in the post) that we should enforce on ourselves. While those rules are sureley helpful and are a MUST for some people, chronic prostatitis / chronic pelvic pain syndrome remain a syndrome, and a not a resolved issue to say the least...First of all, doctors are neither invited or allowed on the camp grounds
All this to say, that we never should cut the link between us and the doctors. They still have a lot to learn from us so that we can learn from them afterward. You would be surprised of how little they know about our
daily struggles... and if such camp would ever exist this would be a prefect opportunity for them to look at us through their microscopes...:)
When you guys see your Uros and GPs it would be very helpful if you correct them when they r wrong, and tell them more about the real situation. As an example my GP was telling me ( and to most of his prostatitis patients) that masturbation is good. I felt undomfortable correcting him, but finally decided to do so... and I think now he would have to think twice about his theories of Flushing the toxins
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Superhero
Doctors have their places. However think about it. There are tons of "new-ish" diseases that have doctors absolutely stumped. They can treat the symptoms..... however curing people of these things is impossbile for them because they refuse to believe that these conditions stem from an overloaded, overly-stressed nervous system. Of course, over time, this will ultimatel slow circulation and starve oxygen from muscle tissues. Later anxiety will emerge, which will make the problem worse. Here are a few examples.
Prostatitis
Fibromyalgia
MS
Lupus
insomnia
headaches
IBS
vulvar pain
Any kind of "itis"
etc
All of these conditions can be traced back to unresolved tension. (And, by the way are VERY difficult for doctors to treat because of their lack of understanding between the body and mind.)
I used to have regular, daily tension headaches that radiated around my head. This went on for every day for years. I went to my GP doctor, and all he did was prescribe me pain medication, and warned me not to take it too often because of "rebound headaches." WOW! Thanks a lot, Doctor.
What I eventually learned (after years of pain) was that by exercising every day (running)....and by raising my heart rate up for at least 30 mins daily, the blood CIRCULATION was increased in my neck, shoulders and scalp. Result....Not ONE headace in over 2 years. Yet you will never hear this on the news as a break-through therapy because no-one gets paid.
Doctors have their places. I'm not anti-doctor. They're good cutting stuff off and digging stuff out of your body. And they're good with infectious diseases. But they're lacking. Boy are they lacking.
Want to read more? Check out "Healing Back Pain" by Doctor John Sarno.
Prostatitis
Fibromyalgia
MS
Lupus
insomnia
headaches
IBS
vulvar pain
Any kind of "itis"
etc
All of these conditions can be traced back to unresolved tension. (And, by the way are VERY difficult for doctors to treat because of their lack of understanding between the body and mind.)
I used to have regular, daily tension headaches that radiated around my head. This went on for every day for years. I went to my GP doctor, and all he did was prescribe me pain medication, and warned me not to take it too often because of "rebound headaches." WOW! Thanks a lot, Doctor.
What I eventually learned (after years of pain) was that by exercising every day (running)....and by raising my heart rate up for at least 30 mins daily, the blood CIRCULATION was increased in my neck, shoulders and scalp. Result....Not ONE headace in over 2 years. Yet you will never hear this on the news as a break-through therapy because no-one gets paid.
Doctors have their places. I'm not anti-doctor. They're good cutting stuff off and digging stuff out of your body. And they're good with infectious diseases. But they're lacking. Boy are they lacking.
Want to read more? Check out "Healing Back Pain" by Doctor John Sarno.
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Ginty
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Totally agree Superhero.
I've read the Sarno book and it does make interesting reading although I thought it was a little light on practical advice on how to get rid of the tension.
Doctor's will never get anywhere with prostatitis until there is a paradigm shift towards accepting the mind-body connection.
I often look at my dog lying contented on the carpet without a health worry in the world, as do all of his kind.
The day that someone shows me a dog with prostatitis is the day I start to believe that this is isn't all driven by the overactive right brain we have inherited.
I've read the Sarno book and it does make interesting reading although I thought it was a little light on practical advice on how to get rid of the tension.
Doctor's will never get anywhere with prostatitis until there is a paradigm shift towards accepting the mind-body connection.
I often look at my dog lying contented on the carpet without a health worry in the world, as do all of his kind.
The day that someone shows me a dog with prostatitis is the day I start to believe that this is isn't all driven by the overactive right brain we have inherited.
Age: 29 | Onset Age: 18 | Symptoms: burning thighs, lower back, increased urination, cloudy urine | Helped By: sorting my head out (Generalized Anxiety Disorder (GAD)), forgetting about it | Worsened By: wheat, stress/anxiety
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Superhero
Yea I somewhat agree. Sarno does a great job at pointing out the root cause of many ailments. However his "treatment" explanation is a little sparse. He claims by simply "accepting the diagnosis" that one can rid their pain.
Howard Stern wrote a book called "Miss America" a while back. I think he dedicated the book and wrote a whole chapter regarding his unrelenting back pain/OCD and the absolute genius of Dr. Sarno. His pain and OCD vanished after numerous years of suffering.
Howard Stern wrote a book called "Miss America" a while back. I think he dedicated the book and wrote a whole chapter regarding his unrelenting back pain/OCD and the absolute genius of Dr. Sarno. His pain and OCD vanished after numerous years of suffering.