So who else ordered the enzymes and now regretting it??!!

[mayoworker]

DAMN I can't believe this....talk about piss poor timing...I just ordered the wobenzym and serrapeptase yesterday...and now this stuff is being questioned?? unreal. Well I guess I will try it anyway and hope it doesn't mess me up. THANKS.

[Ginty]

I don't regret it, nothing has changed except some suspicion has been raised as to motives, which I personally don't believe.
The supplement is the same as it was yesterday, as are any potential effects on inflammation and the healing response of the body.
Who knows, it may or may not work, we'll see.
I'm sure you've spent more on other things that haven't worked but at the end of the day at least you can say you kept your mind open and tried.

[scotsman]

DAMN I can't believe this....talk about piss poor timing...I just ordered the wobenzym and serrapeptase yesterday...and now this stuff is being questioned?? unreal. Well I guess I will try it anyway and hope it doesn't mess me up. THANKS.

It's healthy to question new treatments and we're all still interested in hearing how peoples experiences go. I've order some serrapeptase myself and will be posting my findings.

Richard.

[webslave]

I think we should question ALL treatments, including the Stanford/Wise-Anderson Protocol, Quercetin, and the rest.

Personally, I am not convinced there is any magic bullet, and I remain intrigued by issues such as:

• the role of the brain and CNS in causing and perpetuating chronic pain
• the role of allergy in this condition, as well as in CFS
• the possibility of underlying genetic defects in this condition

Trigger Point protocols and phyto/nutraceuticals are not going to change the nature of any of the above, even if they do relieve symptoms.

[treynor33]

I personnally thank ericpeterman for sharing his experience with us and don't question his motives at all, I fully believe he just wants to help. If I stumbled on something that helped me I would post it as soon as I could.

We all should know by now that not all things work for all of us. However his experience and positive results provide hope for some relief.

After all isn't this what we are all here for, sharing our expiences with things that helped and things that didn't. I don't think anyone is expecting anything to be a "magic bullet" for everybody. He just said it was for him.

So far, any accredited quercetin product and lot of other things that have helped other people on this site have done nothing for me, but I still want a varied range of options to try until someday one of these will help.

[MastCells]

I see that there are posts about Wobenzym in the public prostatitis newsgroup archives that go as far back as 1997. It seems the bacterial brigade was interested in it as an adjunct to antibiotic therapy for the treatment of CPPS. This enzyme supplement has been around for all these years, and yet there hasn't been a single positive report about it from a prostatitis patient until now. I remain skeptical, but I'll be interested to see the results posted by our test subjects.

[MastCells]

I personnally thank ericpeterman for sharing his experience with us and don't question his motives at all, I fully believe he just wants to help.

Eric's posts look a lot like sales pitches to me. If he's legit, then I apologize. Just keep in mind that there are a lot of quacks and shills out there who want to make money off us, so don't be too trusting.

[londoner]

Caution is fine - and proper - but I think some postings criticising Eric Peterman have been more than just cautious and a bit undignified-particularly one posting which was subsequently toned down. Everyone on this forum is vulnerable and feels vulnerable. That's the nature of the condition. Webslave was right to exercise caution and to advise people to make their own decisions but some postings have been quite attacking!

When I went to the Nutricentre, which is the retail end of the highly respected Hale Clinic in London, and explained my condition they immediately suggested I try Serraptatase for its anti-inflammatory properties. This was before Eric Peterman's postings. I had been taking it alongside Quercetin and had experienced good results. I don't think it would have been recommended by the learned Hale Clinic staff if it hadn't already earned some medical credence. That's not to say it's it's the answer, nor the answer for everybody. Eric Peterman did call it a 'magic bullet' but he also called it 'MY magic bullet'. Let people try these compounds and then let the rest know about their efficacy.

[Ralph]

I think we should question ALL treatments, including the Stanford/Wise-Anderson Protocol, Quercetin, and the rest.

Personally, I am not convinced there is any magic bullet, .

Right. I'm not sure we all suffer from the same disease or even if we have the same disease caused by different things. A "cure" is a tough sell when you don't know what you're treating. Most of the time we are addressing symptoms just so the quality of our lives improve.

[CppsDad]

I don't think anyone should feel bad about ordering the stuff. There looks to be some promising results for somebody, though I doubt the treatment will help everybody. And in my opinion, the Peterman thread got out of hand because of a) some ill-advised red-flag phrases that we've all seen and heard before from more suspicious folk, and b) a lot of links to sites with drugs that would be something a salesman would do. Remember, we are all vulnerable on this site due to our longing to be out of pain. I think the voices of caution were for the protection of all of us, and they only kicked in when the posts became a little to aggressive in my opinion.

Now, I was and am giving Eric the benefit of the doubt. I just don't think he realized how many times we've heard the phrase "magic pills" and had a guaranteed "relief from symptoms" before.

Personally, I'm excited to see the results of the trials. I hope those of you who ordered it will post your reactions. And as pointed out by others here, there are far worse and more expensive things to put your money in.

But always remember this - there is probably no magic cure for CPPS. It's that search for a magic cure that has stalled most of us for so long. The only way out of this is through long hard work and dedication to reversing the condtions that caused our pain in the first place. But if the enzymes proposed by Mr. Peterman do what he says they do, then perhaps some of us can start getting some relief from the worst symptoms and give our body a break from the pain cycle for a little while as we continue with our treatment using the best protocols we know how.

[DavidinLA]

I see that there are posts about Wobenzym in the public prostatitis newsgroup archives that go as far back as 1997. It seems the bacterial brigade was interested in it as an adjunct to antibiotic therapy for the treatment of CPPS. This enzyme supplement has been around for all these years, and yet there hasn't been a single positive report about it from a prostatitis patient until now. I remain skeptical, but I'll be interested to see the results posted by our test subjects.

Yes. A Latvian urologist has been claiming for years that he can successfully eradicate "anti-biotic resistant chlamydia type prostatitis" and has done so since the early 70s. His web site is filled with a number of "studies" which show great success with his theropies. But if it's true, why is he still an unknown and why is his treatment protocol not more praticed? It does not take long for word-of-mouth to spread knowledge like this around the world given the nature of this condition.