Something i had forgot....
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one day...
Something i had forgot....
I would like to share a story that I guess I had blocked out of my mind. When I was young, maybe 12... I began developing headaches... Nothing to strange, or out of the ordinary there, except I only developed the headache on Sunday's. EVERY SUNDAY sure as taxes it would come. I remember I would wake up, and it would be a dull ache, and develop into almost unbearable pain. Doctors had no answers, of course, who the hell gets a headache just on sunday?? I did! Now that I look back, I had to go visit my sick grandma on sunday's wich upset me terribly... These headaches went on for years, but only on sunday. It would be just fine on Monday when I woke up. It's funny that I dont remember how, or when the headaches resolved themselves? Probably not to long after her death. You might ask, what does this have anything to do with this forum's topics? Well. I think that personalities like our's, handle stress this way, and we will tense some area of the body. It just dosnt happen to be my head this time......
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hodologica
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It seems many headaches of various types are caused by nocturnal bruxism. And stress can be behind bruxism. Maybe there are also other ways for stress to result in headache.
Youd kind of think more CPPSers would be bruxers, but on these boards theres evidence of only four bruxing CPPSers (three posters and one person mentioned in a study).
Youd kind of think more CPPSers would be bruxers, but on these boards theres evidence of only four bruxing CPPSers (three posters and one person mentioned in a study).
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darwin
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I would bet there are more than that here with Bruxism.
My dentist always says I'm grinding my teeth at night, by the wear and tear he sees on my teeth.
I'm fine if I wear my 10 year old retainer, though. I discovered years ago that I sleep better with the retainer in. In the last couple of years, I've noticed that when I don't sleep with it, I get a headache the next day. A lot of people grind their teeth in their sleep and just don't know it yet. I didn't realize it until a couple of years ago, even though I knew my retainer helped me sleep better. I just thought It was a habit thing.
Some people don't figure it out till a bed partner notices it.
As a group, I would think we are generally an anxious bunch and things like bruxism, pencil chewing, smoking, and CPP are side effects of too much anxiety.
My dentist always says I'm grinding my teeth at night, by the wear and tear he sees on my teeth.
I'm fine if I wear my 10 year old retainer, though. I discovered years ago that I sleep better with the retainer in. In the last couple of years, I've noticed that when I don't sleep with it, I get a headache the next day. A lot of people grind their teeth in their sleep and just don't know it yet. I didn't realize it until a couple of years ago, even though I knew my retainer helped me sleep better. I just thought It was a habit thing.
Some people don't figure it out till a bed partner notices it.
As a group, I would think we are generally an anxious bunch and things like bruxism, pencil chewing, smoking, and CPP are side effects of too much anxiety.
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hodologica
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I also brux. I've been doing it for years. Actually well before my chronic prostatitis / chronic pelvic pain syndrome started. And I've been wearing a mouthguard at night for years at the recommendation of my dentist. Actually, the mouthguard makes me clench even more I find, but at least my teeth don't get ruined.
Since starting the Stanford/Wise-Anderson Protocol in May I find that I don't brux during the day like I used to. I may be bruxing less during the night but I'm sure that I still do it plenty.
It's very stress related; however, I have a theory on how it started for me...
When I was about 15 or so I had braces and a headgear. Every time the orthodontist adjusted my braces, the bite became very uncomfortable and misaligned. It really was bothering me, particularlty while eating. I would continue to practice biting throughout the day until the bite became comfortable. The orthodontist was always so impressed at my progress, and he thought I was wearing the headgear overtime. The truth is that I did not wear the headgear routinely at all, and the progress was from this bad habit that I had started. Ever since then, I was not able to get out of that habit.
My sister and mother also do it though, so maybe it runs in the family.
Tim Sawyer (the Stanford PT), told me that he thinks many if not most chronic prostatitis / chronic pelvic pain syndrome sufferers have bruxism.
My dentist mentioned to me that there's a new mouthguard appliance that helps break the habit. I should ask him about it.
Funny story, my dentist (actually is a prosthodontist), who is extremely intelligent, actually has the Travell and Simons trigger point manual on his book shelf. I noticed this last month when I was in the dentist chair. I asked him about it and he was quite knowledgeable about Travell, and even knew that she treated Kennedy. I find it so ironic that every uro I've seen knows nothing about trigger points, but my dentist knows. Anybody know how trigger points can relate to dentistry? Or maybe he has it for personal reasons.
Since starting the Stanford/Wise-Anderson Protocol in May I find that I don't brux during the day like I used to. I may be bruxing less during the night but I'm sure that I still do it plenty.
It's very stress related; however, I have a theory on how it started for me...
When I was about 15 or so I had braces and a headgear. Every time the orthodontist adjusted my braces, the bite became very uncomfortable and misaligned. It really was bothering me, particularlty while eating. I would continue to practice biting throughout the day until the bite became comfortable. The orthodontist was always so impressed at my progress, and he thought I was wearing the headgear overtime. The truth is that I did not wear the headgear routinely at all, and the progress was from this bad habit that I had started. Ever since then, I was not able to get out of that habit.
My sister and mother also do it though, so maybe it runs in the family.
Tim Sawyer (the Stanford PT), told me that he thinks many if not most chronic prostatitis / chronic pelvic pain syndrome sufferers have bruxism.
My dentist mentioned to me that there's a new mouthguard appliance that helps break the habit. I should ask him about it.
Funny story, my dentist (actually is a prosthodontist), who is extremely intelligent, actually has the Travell and Simons trigger point manual on his book shelf. I noticed this last month when I was in the dentist chair. I asked him about it and he was quite knowledgeable about Travell, and even knew that she treated Kennedy. I find it so ironic that every uro I've seen knows nothing about trigger points, but my dentist knows. Anybody know how trigger points can relate to dentistry? Or maybe he has it for personal reasons.
Age: 36 | Symptoms: Started with urethra/penis pain. Now have low back and posterior pelvic pain. Have been doing SP since May 2004.
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hodologica
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Trigger points as far down as the neck (or is it even lower?) can result from heavy bruxism, and often dentists treat bruxism/TMJ/TMD. Thats probably the connection.
Sorry I dont have a source but I think I remember coming to believe those who maintain that full-coverage mouthguards do nothing for most patients, except, as you say, protect the teeth. Theres no studies I guess but there is some practitioner testimony over at sci.med.dentistry.
Theres a lot of newish neat ideas for bruxism treatment. check out the bottom of this page:
viewtopic.php?t=1759
Sorry I dont have a source but I think I remember coming to believe those who maintain that full-coverage mouthguards do nothing for most patients, except, as you say, protect the teeth. Theres no studies I guess but there is some practitioner testimony over at sci.med.dentistry.
Theres a lot of newish neat ideas for bruxism treatment. check out the bottom of this page:
viewtopic.php?t=1759
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I most have not been around for that topic. I brux as well. But I doubt this was the source of my headaches. Much more likely the stress of visiting my grandmother. Like I said, I dont remember when the symptom's resolved.... but I still brux, and alway's have since I can remember. I can remember being very young, and my brother's not wanting to sleep in the same room with me, because I grind my teeth in my sleep. I still do it, but I can tell you I have never had a headache since it resolved itself. Well, aside from being sick, or hungover. Not one. I dont no why my head hurt do to stress?? Or why now I stress in my pelvic area instead? The other day I was looking at a friend of mine's bad tooth, and I felt a electric sensation in the same area I get pain. perineum area. That is not the first time I have noticed it. I really dont like the site of bad teeth. Can anyone qualified, or not qualified, take a stab at why this happens?