Diazepam and Ibuprofen end Back and Testicular pain

[webslave]

I saw this message on Usenet and thought it should be put here too:

If you are suffering from severe testicular and lower back pain and a feeling like a golf ball up your ass and you have had all the tests to come back negative, there is a real good chance that you do not have any kind if infection or inflammation. Recently I posted about using several different painkillers on different days of the week. Had to stop that because it gave me a constant headache. I also posted that I was taking Valium on Mondays and Tuesdays and was pain free on these days. Went back to my Dr. and told him about the success I was having with Valium. Last week he gave me a 6-month supply of diazepam. 5mg 2 times a day for 2 weeks. After 2 weeks cut back to 2.5 mg 2 times a day he also told me to take 800 mg of ibuprofen per day. Well the debilitating back pain, testicular pain especially in my right nut and the feeling of a golf ball up my ass is gone. This is the first time is over 30 years of CP that I am not hurting. My Dr. said my whole problem was caused by extreme tension in the pelvic muscles he also said that 6 months of diazepam might cure the problem for me. I know it is addictive but I am taking a small dose and he does not think it will cause me a major problem with addiction and if it does I will just have to deal with it.

Later, another sufferer criticized him and asked him why he was taking potentially addictive drugs and not using antibiotics like Doxy and Bactrim. He responded:

When you have had CP for over 30 years and tried every antibiotic that is used to treat this condition, you have a tendency to lose faith in antibiotic treatment. The only antibiotic that has ever helped me is Cipro, but as soon as I stop taking it the pain always comes back. Cipro is a powerful drug and you should not take it for more than a few weeks. I tried the doxy and Bactrim but it didn't help me. My Dr. diagnosed me with extreme pelvic muscle tension. 5mg of diazepam 2 times and a shit load of b-complex vitamins has me back working full time and enjoying life again. I don't know if I ever had CP, but I certainly had the symptoms. Severe testes pain, severe back pain, and the feeling of a golf ball stuck up my ass. But I never had any trouble peeing. If I had an infection for over 30 years, I am sure that my dick, balls and asshole would have rotted off by now.

[tom402]

When I read posts like this and see how bad some people have it I certainly stop feeling sorry for myself. To be taking 5mg of Diazepam twice a day with 800mg of Ibuprofen on top of that, you've gotta be in some serious pain. I can buy the theory about pelvic tension too, I hope this works out for him. If Diazepam addiction occurs it sounds like it'd be the lesser of two evils in this case. I believe Dr. Dimitrakov posted something regarding using Neurontin to ween off Diazepam.

[Northernspy]

This is the first time is over 30 years of CP that I am not hurting. My Dr. said my whole problem was caused by extreme tension in the pelvic muscles he also said that 6 months of diazepam might cure the problem for me..

THAT IS THRILLING!!

I have almost exactly those symptoms!

Why haven't more people tried it?

For those that did try... what was the outcome? Is the effect permanent? Did the original writer ever stop taking valium? Shouldn't this be great to COMBINE with myofascial pelvic floor massage? or NOT -- if the symptoms disappear, why mess with any stimulus of the pelvic floor?

- Charles

[Northernspy]

I followed up on that newsgroup post -- the guy who wrote it has been posting since 1996, finding solution after solution, but none work for very long. I admire him, he never gives up.

Most recently (2004) he found amitriptylene -- for nerve pain (presumably his pudendal nerve). He also takes Darvon. Who knows how long that will work.

However, my research came across a Dr. Joe Dankoff in Ohio who does or used to use Vallium -- lose doses, extended period -- and claims to permanently cure prostatitis with it.

Any opinions?

success, failure, charlatans, or what?

- Charles

[webslave]

Valium is not a cure for this condition, no matter what he claims. It can certainly help though.

[one day...]

I can second mark's answer with expirience. I knew a long time ago from a wild teen life that valium would be helpful with my problem. What it does besides relax muscles, is makes your mind relax as well. The problem with valium is that you very quickly build a tolerence to it. Meaning, the tranquill feeling will not come in the same dosage every night. And the easy goin feeling is half the reason why it helps. Makes you a lot less anxious I prefer Xanax over valium because it will do the same thing to you every night as long as you dont up the dosage. I take one 1milligram tablet, a half hour before bed. If I took it during the day, I wouldnt get much done.

[bti20]

Does anybody know if this guy is getting a durable effect from the valium and ibruprofen or not?

If he is, then is there not a drug with the same/similar action as valium but which is not addictive?

[Northernspy]

Does anybody know if this guy is getting a durable effect from the valium and ibruprofen or not?

He definitely is not.

You can follow his tale by using Google (including Google "Groups") to track swantzswanson.

Every few months he found a new cure (at one point, antacids on the theory his anal burning was a gastrointestinal problem) and they always fail him and he always continues the search and is always optimistic for awhile. I admire his persistance.

Most recently (2004) he discovered amitriptyline and something else -- NSAI I think.

- Charles

[one day...]

Hey bti20. I dont no exactly what you mean by durable effect, The combo of valium and ibuprofin is definatly helping him. As far as less addictive, Xanax is a much better choice. see my previous post. I read about your running woes as well. Take a Xanax and ibuprofin right before you run. At the end of your run take a hot bath and relax. Start out running short distances, and work your way up. I hope I could help you, your posts have helped me in the past. I hope you get back to your studies soon. I read your posts, and I think you probably have the best therories on chronic prostatitis / chronic pelvic pain syndrome that I have ever read. Your bright mind need's to be back to work! thank's Thomas

[MastCells]

The combo of valium and ibuprofin is definatly helping him. As far as less addictive, Xanax is a much better choice.

Actually, I believe the opposite is true. Xanax (alprazolam) has a shorter half-life than Valium (diazepam), and IME, BANG, you can feel the alprazolam kick in fast and wear off after a few hours. Much more so than Valium. I think it's been well-established that alprazolam is more addictive than diazepam.

"Alprazolam patients required a significantly longer period of detoxification than diazepam patients."

J Psychoactive Drugs.
Types of benzodiazepines abused by chemically dependent inpatients.
Malcolm R, Brady KT, Johnston AL, Cunningham M.

"Alprazolam, now the most widely prescribed benzodiazepine in the United States, appears to have supplanted diazepam as the benzodiazepine drug of choice in this population. Its greater addiction liability, shorter half-life, and more intense withdrawal symptoms make addiction to alprazolam more likely and its management in methadone patients more complicated."

J Subst Abuse Treat.
Outpatient benzodiazepine detoxification procedure for methadone patients.
McDuff DR, Schwartz RP, Tommasello A, Tiegel S, Donovan T, Johnson JL.

"Alprazolam has a shorter half-life, which may lead to more withdrawal symptoms than diazepam. In experimental conditions, they are among the most reinforcing benzodiazepines. Each causes a withdrawal syndrome, but alprazolam withdrawal may be more severe and may occur after a shorter period of use...Alprazolam deserves special caution because of its...great popularity, reinforcing capabilities, relatively severe withdrawal syndrome, and reports of addiction and negative consequences of use."

J Subst Abuse Treat.
Alprazolam and diazepam: addiction potential.
Juergens S.