Just tried some of the stretching exercises in A Headache in the Pelvis, and I was amazed to find that I have a lot of stiff, tight, painful muscles in my pelvis. With one exercise I almost cried out with pain. The pain was on my right side only, which is also the side on which I had the worst chronic prostatitis / chronic pelvic pain syndrome problems. The pain seemed to extend all the way to the outside of my hip.
After the exercises I sat down to write this and there is a oddly light, relaxed feeling in the groin. Wierd!
If anyone else experiences this, please post here.
Stretching Exercises
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Normally my physio has to re-align my pelvis/spine at the start of each session. He recently gave me some stretches to do at home similar to some of those in the book, and I've added in the other ones in the book. They must do some good, because the last 4 times I have been he has not needed to re-align my back once.
This is not Medical advice - Consult your Doctor!
Age:39. Age at onset:31. Symptoms prior to treatment: Golf ball in rectum, severe urinary frequency (2-3x/hr; 5-10x/night); weak stream; painful ejaculation; coccygeal pain; tip of penis pain; general pelvic pain on left; testicular pain; supra-pubic pain. Current | Symptoms: Urinary frequency 1x every 2-3 hrs and 1-2 x a night; mild pelvic pain on left hand side (all symptoms still improving!)
Helped by: Trigger point release; avoiding exercise; pelvic floor relaxation; Neurontin decreased bladder sensitivity somewhat. Worsened by: Exercise; frequent ejaculation; ibuprofen irritates bladder. Made no difference: Diet; biofeedback; quercetin; Steroid anti-inflammatories; Elavil.
****UPDATE*** I am now able to sit again at work all day, and can perform moderate aerobic exersise again for the first time in 8 years!!!
Please read:
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viewtopic.php?f=37&t=248&p=1214
Age:39. Age at onset:31. Symptoms prior to treatment: Golf ball in rectum, severe urinary frequency (2-3x/hr; 5-10x/night); weak stream; painful ejaculation; coccygeal pain; tip of penis pain; general pelvic pain on left; testicular pain; supra-pubic pain. Current | Symptoms: Urinary frequency 1x every 2-3 hrs and 1-2 x a night; mild pelvic pain on left hand side (all symptoms still improving!)
Helped by: Trigger point release; avoiding exercise; pelvic floor relaxation; Neurontin decreased bladder sensitivity somewhat. Worsened by: Exercise; frequent ejaculation; ibuprofen irritates bladder. Made no difference: Diet; biofeedback; quercetin; Steroid anti-inflammatories; Elavil.
****UPDATE*** I am now able to sit again at work all day, and can perform moderate aerobic exersise again for the first time in 8 years!!!
Please read:
viewtopic.php?f=37&t=808&p=3954
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=239&p=1158
viewtopic.php?f=37&t=248&p=1214
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TK
Re: Stretching Exercises
My prepublication copy of "Headache" did not include the diagrams of the stretching excercises. But my physiotherapist gave me a set of stretches that are probably similar since they target the pelvic floor and adjacent/attached muscles.webslave wrote:
After the exercises I sat down to write this and there is a oddly light, relaxed feeling in the groin. Weird!
If anyone else experiences this, please post here.
I did have a similar experience, both after initially starting the therapy and the excercises. No doubt there is a more specific explaination that addresses the actual neuromuscular events . But in broader terms, it seems to me that, I had become so accustomed to the pain from that tension that I was not aware of it until it was released. A great feeling, no?
Like yours, my experience also suggests that the "side" that had the more severe muscle tension problems was also the side where I experienced the preponderance of pain. I recall some posts where others reported the same thing. I guess this is not surprising to the extent that it is intuitive in terms of common experience.
(Maybe we've all become so accustomed to the baffling aspects of our condition that we're surprised when we experience something that can be understood in relatively straightforward terms)
You might want to try gently massaging the muscles in the "crease" between your leg and your inner thighs, concentrating a little more on the inner leg. I find that enhances relaxation.
For those who have begun to suspect that this "Pelvic Myoneuropathy" might hold the answer for them -- I suggest trying this GENTLE massaging. If this brings a small, but definite sensation of relief, a feeling of "softening", then this might be a good preliminary indication that this is worth pursuing.
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I have been doing stretches from Headache in the Pelvis for about a month now combined with Relaxation. The results have been so amazing and after the sheer agony of the past 8 months, I even had 3 completely symptom free days last week. The symptoms came back after I had to go to a conference and sit in uncomfortable chairs for two days. However, my experience led me to believe that David Wise has it right (at least in my case) and I am starting a treatment with a therapist he recommended in NYC. I also have to agree with everyone who posted before about high integrity of David Wise. He didn't try to sell me anything and offered help, even if I can't come out and do their treatment in Stanford.
I am not quite sure what to expect from the trigger point release. The opinions ranged from it being extremely painful to no big deal. I did prostate massage in the past and found it incredibly painful.
I am not quite sure what to expect from the trigger point release. The opinions ranged from it being extremely painful to no big deal. I did prostate massage in the past and found it incredibly painful.
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2nd edition
Hi Toddtstclr wrote:Can the exercises explained in the book be done at home, or do you need to seek out a therapist to assist you with them? Also, can the book be purchased in Canada?
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Todd
Yes you can get the 2nd edition in Canada. You could do it through amazon I am told , or I went right to the Manufacturer of the 2nd edition of the book as the first edition was sold out. Also the toll free number was blocked for Canadians trying to call the USA number. Rayve Productions in California 707-838-6200 sent me the book on October 29 as per their email and I received it today on November 18 in Calgary Alberta Canada.
I have not had a chance to go thru it, just read the first chapter.
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Todd,tstclr wrote:Can the exercises explained in the book be done at home, or do you need to seek out a therapist to assist you with them? Also, can the book be purchased in Canada?
Thanks
Todd
After reading of the book, there are exercises in there that can be used at home. At the same time of receiving the book I finally found someone where I live, who does pelvic floor work for both women and men. She will also be getting a copy of the book. I have seen her three times so far and she adds in mild stretches to be done at home each time I see her starting with mild anterior and posterior contraction/release, pelvic floor squat, adductors, iliopsoas, and cobra stretch. As she is a physiotherapist specializing in pelvic floor dysfunction I now understand why Dr Wise wants you to have a "coach" that can help you through the ups and downs, the increase or decrease in pain, the understanding of if you press "here", what should this feel like. I have no idea if my physio will agree or disagree completely with Dr Wise as she hasnt read the book but she is very open to getting the book and working with the process. Her cursory skim through my copy allowed me to match some of the stretches in the book to stretches that she uses to accomplish the same thing.
So far into this process, I had no idea of how many muscle groups are involved in the pelvic area from the bottom of the rib cage all the way to your knees. I simply didn't realize how tight one can get and how one can tend to hold it in the pelvic area.
Hope this is of some help to someone out there.
Maurice
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