Bacterial Prostatitis

[tickyy]

@Dylan_36: I mean there is not much left to do after this... I will take his recommendation and try it for 6 months and see what happens. I literally have doxy and minocycline here at home and could just take it, but i think he's right that it's taking a direction that just isn't safe anymore, if it ever was safe. If that doesn't work out, I will try phage therapy.

Edit: yes It's been quite the wave in my life, emotionally. As if I've died multiple times during the last 14 months.

[Dylan_36]

Other than antibiotics and stretching, what else have you done to treat your condition?

[webslave]

Update us a few weeks after stopping the clindamycin. You'll either be cured, or, if I am right, back where you started.

But it's the discharge man, the white discharge and the smell that comes with it... It can't be UCCPS, that's just not the ordinary UCPPS ...
I've taken clindamycin for 16 days... Update: Had white discharge again yesterday ... Thoughts?

The lab results from Georgia, if they can be trusted (and that is a big IF), would indicate a Staph infection (10⁸), and it's not completely susceptible to clindamycin. Show the test result to your doctor and get another antibiotic, try it, and come back to report the outcome.

[Dylan_36]

Webslave,

You don't find it at all notable that his father recently passed away, and he admits to being in a state of mental and emotional turmoil, while having these symptoms? I am a little perplexed about the discharge, but other than the discharge it sounds like textbook UCPPS.
What do you think?

[webslave]

Yes, agreed, but a malodorous discharge and a lab result with staph at 10^8 must be investigated first.

[tickyy]

@webslave
I did? He said to discontinue the abx? We did talk through email only though.

The tests from Georgia showed streptococcus, no staph? Am i missing something?

Edit: dylan, in a rush atm, will respond to u later

[tickyy]

Nvm, my brain picked it up as streptococci, its actually staph... Wow. I think i might just take the doxycycline

[tickyy]

Other than antibiotics and stretching, what else have you done to treat your condition?

Hot water bottle on the prostate, a lot of hydration with tea and other plant-based things etc etc...

Anyway, my doc actually got a little mad lol, no wonder... he probably got a lot of prostatitis cases where the patient gets stuck with taking one antibiotic after another, he's seen it all. I managed to respond in a very calming way... after that he suggested that I should come to him September/October to talk. I don't think I will risk another ABX run, only if my pain gets really bad. I am flying to Georgia as soon as I can, right after I get my second covid vaccine, so probably around October/November.

Edit: sorry for the triple post, unfortunately I am not able to edit my posts after a while.

[Dylan_36]

Tickyy,

That clinic in Georgia is a known scam, I think there is a post about it here in the scam section of the forum.

I truly wish you well and I hope you find reprieve from this nightmare but I wasted a month of my life thinking I had an infection. Once I started following wise-Anderson methods I improved substantially. I’m still not 100%, and as mentioned a recent stressful even flared me up, but I am doing much better than day one. Please check out my post on my profile.

[tickyy]

Bacteriophages are absolutely not a scam. I had a few emails back and forth with a couple of scientists here in Germany and Switzerland, they are starting to experiment with phages because what else are they gonna do? Create stronger and stronger antibiotics? We already are at a limit and the resistance is getting higher and higher. Governments here have already started to fond the studies. In Switzerland they are already giving phages to chronic bladder infection patients, I can show you the emails in case you're interested.

Bacteriophages are the future, mark my words because it will take probably 1-3 decades but it will catch on... they are the perfect weapon against bacteria, even if they get resistant to a strain, you literally need to get a bucket, fill it with water waste and there are your next phages you can use, they are adoptable, the perfect weapon!

Is Georgia using this to fuck us right in the fucking ass because western culture doubled down on antibiotics? Yes. But that is a different topic.

As I already mentioned 95% of the cases are not bacterial (UCPPS), that's where it is pointless to use them. I'd rather throw 4k at a scam, for a possibility that it might help than taking one antibiotic after another. I already lost too much because of them... I pray I can run again like I used to and hopefully.... Run marathons again

Fun fact: the more you use phages, the lesser is going to be the resistance to antibiotics, so basically even if I decide to take abx again in the future it is going to be more effective because of the phage therapy, it's a win-win.

I am not going to take any abx anyway, I will try to stretch everyday, even though I've already tried that... But hey, I got nothing to lose

[webslave]

Just take care, going to Georgia. Read this patient story:
https://ucpps.men/viewtopic.php?p=52495#p52495

[tickyy]

Just take care, going to Georgia. Read this patient story:
https://ucpps.men/viewtopic.php?p=52495#p52495

Thank you.

I didn't read all of it since it's 01:00 o'clock rn, but more than enough. I also did the same mistake, I contacted the phagetherapycenter that he mentions first but I kept researching and found out that Eliava Phage therapy center is much bigger and the price was cheaper for the tests.

He basically was ready to throw 3k USD but wasn't ready to do the research... Classic

For the lab. tests they didn't even ask for the money, yet. All I paid was to send the probe to them. As of right now, no red flags yet. They didn't try to sell me custom-made phages, allegedly it's going to work with what they already have.

[tickyy]

Update: took my first doxycycline 2 hours ago because I had very heavy discharge today. I just couldn't take it anymore, the pain was too much

Any tips on doxy? Is there any side effects I should look out for?

[OliverH]

Doxy was always pretty mild for me. Hope you start feeling better.

[tickyy]

Hello everyone, I just wanted to update everyone in the hopes that it might help someone, somewhere, for spreading information.

I have stopped taking doxycycline after 3 pills because I felt very weak and didn't want to take even more antibiotics, even though the side-effects were "ok".

So basically, I stopped taking the antibiotics and ordered bacteriophages from Eliava Institute, ENCO and SES is what I am taking, even though I believe there is no longer any bacteria in me but since side-effects are almost non-existent, that's why I am taking it.

This is my hypothesis and I would love to hear your opinion on this @webslave

I went to my uro two days ago and he did a ultrasound for the first time and showed me the screen - the size is normal and that I have calcifications to which he explained is basically the leftovers of the white blood cells doing their job. That's where it hit me like a fucking train, I immediately was able to connect everything and basically explain why I am still suffering

I believe, even though I had CBP, I basically killed it amox-clav and that the discharge is the leftovers of prostate calcifications, that would explain everything.

It would explain why my case got WORSE after amoxi-clav. It would explain why masturbating makes it worse and not just immediately worse, it actually feels good the first hour or so, more like after 18-20 hours, that's where it begins, I believe it is the calcifications that "move" in the prostate, trying to release from the prostate, every time I release semen, that irritates the prostate and everything around it which causes the inflammation. It makes totally sense to me. That would also explain the white discharge, the discharge is prostate calcification leftovers!!! I probably had the infection for years and it's now slowly releasing with every orgasm

It would also explain why I still keep discharging even though I was on my 17th day on Clindamycin, which to me made no sense at all. I thought the fucking germ is now probably resistant and that is why the discharge is still there.

So basically, yes, I had an infection, the infection is gone, I am feeling better with each day and the discharge is getting less and less, the smell is getting less and less, I am having more good days than bad days. It's the calcification that's irritating the prostate and I have to endure till it's "all" out, by basically having orgasms, which my uro also recommended BTW, he says that way I clean it.

I will get cultures done after I am done with the phages, just to make sure.

I would love to hear any opinion on this even though CPB is so damn rare,

Thank you everyone for the support, I plan make a detailed post about my case and about bacteriophages in the future in the hopes that it might help somebody out there.