10 months in and counting

[english_cousin]

Well, as it was my original post that has been hijacked for this I thought I'd better add my comments. I saw Bill several times May-Sept last year and have nothing but good feedback for him. I found him to be professional, a good listener and encouraging about this condition. It seemed to me he found trigger points and after a few sessions these lessened in intensity. Along with the stretches he showed me and the ones from the HITP I am more or less pain free now and haven't felt the need for further PT since Sept. However he is the only PT I have seen for this so can't compare him to others.

I won't comment on some of the other stuff written in the previous posts, however they describe a very different experience to my own. All I can say is I'm glad I went to see him and would do so again.

nick

[webslave]

Nick, that's fine, but remember that your good experience does not negate what Flump says happened to him. As for "hijacking", I'll probably split this off in a while into another thread.

[graeme]

This is all a little confusing Bill is married with 2 kids and not Gay and that's a fact, he has helped many people I know this and speak to some of them, yes he's not very organised and not as good as Tim. Flump I really feel for you mate that's awful and I am bewildered!!

[alprost]

He told me he used the gay sites.

I think this was his way of signalling his sexuality to you, flump. I would not be surprised if Taylor is homosexual, and if he is using this job as a way of satisfying his proclivities.

I honestly don't think this is the case Mark. As I posted above, in all of my dealings with him, he never once did or said anything which would lead me to this conclusion. It is the fact that he doesn't know what he is doing that leads him to try questionable, if not somewhat ridiculous, treatment strategies IMHO.

[alprost]

,he has helped many people i know this and speak to some of them,yes hes not very organised and not as good as Tim . !

Th point isn't that he is not as good Tim - That wouldn't be a problem if he could still reliably locate and release trigger points. The point is that he is completely untrained in the treatment of chronic prostatitis / chronic pelvic pain syndrome and is unable to do this.

[scotsman]

I honestly don't think this is the case Mark. As I posted above, in all of my dealings with him, he never once did or said anything which would lead me to this conclusion.

I saw Bill over a 2 year period for over 50 sessions and completely agree - I never had any cause to come to another conclusion.

It is the fact that he doesn't know what he is doing that leads him to try questionable, if not somewhat ridiculous, treatment strategies IMHO.

Bang on the money with that statement.

Have to say that he never did anything out of the ordinary with my treatment though - but I think he was perhaps more conservative in his approach in the early days.

[webslave]

Be that as it may, the description given by flump was of a frankly sexual procedure, in my view. If anything was said about gay mags, it could have been Bill giving a hint to someone he thought might respond to it. Unfortunately, marriage, even with kids, does not rule out the possibility that this is a form of sexual abuse of his patients. I think that there may be more going on here than just incompetence.

The number of people who came away unscathed is not material. For instance, cases of gynaecologists who are fine with 99.9% of their patients, but rape one or two, have been in the press. I'm not stating that this was a form of manual (digital) rape, I'm just saying that it sounds like it.

I don't know much about Flump, I wish I did. But I'm prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt at the mo'. I'd like him to respond here with his age, since he has not filled out his signature. He seems to have disappeared, so perhaps this conversation is becoming too alarming for him.

[flump]

I am now 34 yrs old, all I have said is true, sadly very true and real. All I wanted to do was help and warn other people to be careful when choosing a physio and make sure you get one that knows what he is doing not guessing and trial and error. Remember I am not the only one to say they had a bad experience with Bill. Those that have need to come forward. Remember that many who have seen Bill haven't had the experience of a trained physio so they have nothing to compare Bill to, once you have its night and day. As I said before I used to big Bill up on these very forums as I thought I found someone who could help and they knew what they were doing. It wasn't until further down the line with Bill I was getting worse, much worse not better, that I decided I needed another physio.

It has been confirmed by one of the worlds leading physios that I have damage to my sphincter caused by Bill and his 4 fingers going inside at the same time stretching/stripping the sphincter for many physio sessions. I have also been told that I have a good legal case as well but I'm not going down that road that's just not me. I want to put it behind me and move onwards.

[webslave]

Thank you for coming forward, Flump. I have no doubt that you are telling the truth and I wish more people would speak out about bad treatment the way you have.

[scotsman]

I have also been told that I have a good legal case as well but I'm not going down that road that's just not me. I want to put it behind me and move onwards.

You have up to 3 years to bring a case forward for clinical negligence - so plenty of time if you change your mind.

Whilst I'm also not into the 'where there is blame there is a claim' culture, I do believe that there is professional responsibility and if anyone in such a position fcuks up then they should be held accountable for that - even more so where it's a position of trust.

It sounds like Bill repeated the same treatment path on you a number of times. That was one of the areas that always frustrated me about the treatment I received. Every time I went - especially for the last 20 or so sessions - we just did and treated the same area each time. I now count myself lucky that no damage was done and my heart does go out to you for what has happened. This is a shitty enough condition to deal with without the person you go to for help making things so much worse.

Be well and quick in your recovery.
Richard.

[robertpagen]

I can relate to his complaint. In the year 2000, when prostate massage was still in vogue, I had a urologist in Queens New York who clearly got a charge out of the administration of a prostate massage. His name was Dr Yoon. Generally if you feel not right about something, trust your instincts. In my case I initially gave him the benefit of the doubt, until there was no doubt.

[flump]

This is all a little confusing Bill is married with 2 kids and not Gay and that's a fact, he has helped many people I know this and speak to some of them, yes he's not very organised and not as good as Tim. Flump I really feel for you mate that's awful and I am bewildered!!

graeme, bill has 3 kids not 2

[Hacksquat]

Sorry for your bad experience Flump.

I saw Bill a year ago, travelled from Sweden to see him. I do not think he is gay but I back up the statements about him being disorganized and not seem properly trained. However, he is still better than the Swedish PT´s (or my girlfriend), who have zero experience, so at that point it was good for me to at least know I have tender and hurtful spots in my pelvic floor muscles. The Swedish PTs couldn't even find the terrible ones, leading me to believe my problem was of another nature. They could reproduce some symptoms with stretching my levator, but not really pinpoint the trigger points.

[flump]

Thanks for coming forward hacksquat

Did anyone else have the same style treatment as me? i.e 3 to 4 fingers used inside and the "stripping" method? I know of one other apart from myself.

[nera]

I saw Bill Taylor as a patient over 9 months. At no point did he attempt to perform any such treatment on me. He was both professional and understanding and reduced my pain down to a very low level. I currently go for months without a flare up and when they do happen I use stretching to sort things out. Flump's experience sounds nothing like mine or those of many of the other patients who have posted on this site regarding Bill.