Seminal Vesicle Removal, Prostate Removal

[webslave]

This is a message from someone who took the surgical route. We tried to dissuade him from having surgery, to no avail. Despite having had both his prostate and seminal vesicles removed, he is not really much better off. Still determined to continue with his belief in infection, he now suspects his Cowper's Glands. I guess when those have gone he'll simply have his lower half removed, like the magician's woman in a box.

I had the seminal vesicles removed. It helped, but not as much as I had hoped. I had worse back problems before I got rid of them. Then I got the prostate taken out. Once again, it helped, but it wasn't a cure. My back problems are better still and my headaches are less severe. But my conjunctivitis is worse. I still have pain if I sit in an upright position for a long time. The pain is in the perineum near the anus. What we have down there are the Cowper's glands, which can get chronically infected. The problem with the Cowper's glands is that surgically removing them can cause incontinence. On the other hand, the Cowper's glands disappear in castrated animals. Maybe the testosterone constantly working on those glands suppresses the immune system enough for chronic infection to happen there. Who knows, maybe a Feliciano-like protocol plus testosterone lowering drugs would solve the problem. As far as SV surgery as a potential cure for chronic prostatitis: unlikely. But it may do some good.

[alprost]

I think this guy has just been very unlucky to have came into contact with a Surgeon who would reinforce these beliefs and perform this surgery.

[scotsman]

What a horrific cycle/approach to get involved with

Poor guy.

[conradin]

I feel sorry for him.

[Dutch]

What if a person isn't really experiencing back pains...but just the usual prostate area pains and irritation? I've had this for nearly 20 years now, and was doing quite well until recently. I'm at the point where if removing it cures it, I'd look into it. Although I'll probably give the supplements I used to take another try(they seemed to help), as well as add some new ones, before seriously considering a surgery option,

[webslave]

Surgical removal of the prostate gland is simply not a good route to go for the vast majority of men with CPPS. Too many men have unchanged symptoms afterwards.

[drydoc]

Well since my chronic prostatitis / chronic pelvic pain syndrome began AFTER a radical prostatectomy for cancer, I can guarantee you that removal won't necessarily help. It's similar to the women who had their bladders removed for IC and still hurt. Surgery too can be a placebo.

[Dutch]

Thanks guys.

It seems my flare-up is settling down some. A quick fix always sounds nice when things aren't going good though.

[superuse]

There is a version of hypochondria (itself a symptom of ocd) called parasitosis (an ocd type), where a person is convinced he is infected with parasites. How this generalizes to "bugs" and germs in general other than the hypochondria one would have to ask a psychiatrist. (to interpret the diagnostic manual) It can help explain a lot of the hubbub with homoeopathy, candidiasis, and obsession with parasites that such treatments exploit.

Evidently in severe and rare cases the subject will actually start to lopping off or trying to cut out offending (members?). Such as a paranoid (delusional) schizophrenic may try to cut out or remove Soviet or foreign "transmitters" and such in his body. Sometimes this extreme reaction occurs when the physical symptoms of the "parasite" is quite mild. There is a fairly high correlation with ocd and schizophrenia, although both can occur separately.

One can imagine with even a mild form of OCD, and a predisposition to chronic prostatitis / chronic pelvic pain syndrome (IT guy, sitting, heavy exercise,bikes, etc), an onset precipitated by strain of a rough nite in the sack with someone new, a real or imagined infection could send one down the wrong path for years, long after the initial infection is gone if it even existed at all, especially since the symptoms of chronic prostatitis / chronic pelvic pain syndrome are hardly mild, especially in the anxiety-doctor visit feedback loop and windup so common early on for most. The forays into excising being done far more formally with surgeons and such, and a seeming and logical causal relationship but still, the wrong path

[Dutch]

Nah, that's not what's going on with me. I suppose it could be the case for the person mentioned above though.

[webslave]

Actually, superuse, it's called "delusional parasitosis" and it's a psychosis. Nothing to do with OCD. But yes, there are men who are obsessed with the idea of infection. Germaphobia, known in medical circles as mysophobia, is an abnormal fear of dirt and germs and is associated with OCD.