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lukesky · Post by **lukesky** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:07 am

I have posted on this forum many times and have had chronic prostatitis / chronic pelvic pain syndrome for about 8 years. I have progressively suffered with erectile dysfunction (ED) for about the last 3 years. I have taken Viagra, Cialis and L-Arginine. The Cialis was effective but gave me untoward side effects. My wife refuses to have sex with me due to the side effects of the above mentioned products. I have found a product that is truly amazing and I get no side effects from it. It is an all natural product called Vicerex. I took 2 capsules and within 30-40 minutes had a raging erection and was ready for sex. My wife and I had sex, I lasted about 1 hour and never lost my erection and had an incredible orgasm. Without taking anything I cannot get an erection, have premature ejaculation and felt that chronic prostatitis / chronic pelvic pain syndrome would ruin my sex life. This product is the real deal. It claims that it works everytime and can last up to 3-4 days - ability to get an maintain erection. I can attest to this. This product works for me and in my opinion works better than Cialis. It not only gives me an erection like I had as an 18 year old but it also increased my sex drive and it didn't feel "artificial" like Cialis. With Vicerex the desire was there, mood was there and performance was there. Do a google search and those with ED will be pleased. I have no connection with the product and am simply passing on what has worked for me.

Luke

DavidinLA · Post by **DavidinLA** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:40 am

I would like to believe you, but I need a little evidence as to how effective this product is. I noticed that you have posted here for over two years where you describe various aspects of your condition, so I doubt that you are a spammer. However, the cost is about 40.00 USD for 10 pills. Although I could afford to give it a try, I cannot afford to try every supplement that makes such a claim.

My skepticism comes as a result of earlier claims made here. About a year or two ago, a guy in this forum made a post about how some wobenzyme product cured him of his prostatitis and ED. I believe a few people purchased the product online, but to the best of my knowledge, there have been no other success stories. I am not saying that the guy who made the claim was dishonest, but you have to be careful about the conclusions you draw. Everyone is different, therefore, people will react differently to different products.

I was not able to find any mention of a peer-reviewed study on the Vicerex site or the Internet. If you know if one, please post it here.

Don't get me wrong. I hope you are right. A natural product is always better than some chemical IMO. Keep us informed about how it works for you and if it helps with your other chronic prostatitis / chronic pelvic pain syndrome symptoms.

VBBronco · Post by **VBBronco** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:26 am

I wake up withan erection every morning Do you? I have had some ED but more of a mental aspect I believe. I have used 50 mg of viagra and been able to keep an erection longer than I was when I was 18. I am surprised you are having so much trouble. God bless.

DavidinLA · Post by **DavidinLA** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:16 am

VBBronco wrote:I wake up withan erection every morning Do you? I have had some ED but more of a mental aspect I believe. I have used 50 mg of viagra and been able to keep an erection longer than I was when I was 18. I am surprised you are having so much trouble.

It's a common symptom for many of us and one that is ignored far too often, so I'm not sure why you are surprised.

jj77 · Post by **jj77** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:29 am

Speaking about ED, I have found this:

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articl ... id=1324914

The fact that CPPS-induced ED often comes progressively make me think that the cause can be rooted in the muscles. After all, tense muscles are way weaker than the norm.

Any toughts?

DavidinLA · Post by **DavidinLA** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:34 am

jj77 wrote: The fact that CPPS-induced ED often comes progressively

Not always. For me, ED was the very first symptom.

jj77 wrote: make me think that the cause can be rooted in the muscles. After all, tense muscles are way weaker than the norm.

It seems to be in line with the recent Stanford Study release which indicated that many ED patients experienced significant improvement after getting the SP treatment. The British study seems to go in the same general area with regard to pelvic muscles being the culprit. I have to read the studies in detail to see how the treatments differed.

It would be very interesting to see if ED (in most cases) and chronic prostatitis / chronic pelvic pain syndrome are really just different symptoms of the same disorder and that some acquire one of the symptoms while others acquire both.

Thanks for posting the study.

lukesky · Post by **lukesky** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:07 pm

Tried the Vicerex again last night. This time I only took 1 capsule about 3 hours before sex. Worked like a dream again. Made love for about 45 minutes with no problem. Didn't lose erection and had stimulating sex. Vicerex for me is real deal. I am not a SPAMMER.

Luke

MastCells · Post by **MastCells** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:05 pm

Placebo effect?

rider fan · Post by **rider fan** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:12 pm

That's great that it works for you. Just keep in mind that this product has not been tested for safety and efficacy, nor is it regulated in any way.

Many, many of these types of products also contain (but do not list) black market derivities of Sildenafil (Viagra) cooked up in labs in India.

lukesky · Post by **lukesky** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:58 pm

I have tried 3-4 other "Natural" supplements that claim they solve the ED problem and I did not get the placebo effect from them. They were a waste of time, money and effort.

Luke

VBBronco · Post by **VBBronco** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:22 am

My first symptom was ED as well I was just surprised that Viagra didn't help. I think Viagra helps me physically as well as placebo affect.

DavidinLA · Post by **DavidinLA** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:06 am

rider fan wrote:Many, many of these types of products also contain (but do not list) black market derivities of Sildenafil (Viagra) cooked up in labs in India.

Are they allowed to do this without listing the chemical as an ingredient and the sell it in the U.S. (or most western nations)? It sounds like that is a lawsuit waiting to happen.

DavidinLA · Post by **DavidinLA** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:08 am

VBBronco wrote:My first symptom was ED as well I was just surprised that Viagra didn't help. I think Viagra helps me physically as well as placebo affect.

I hear you. My sensativity varies on different days and I believe that could be part of the problem. I believe Viagra only helps with the blood flow, whereas sensativity helps to stimulate oneself.

rider fan · Post by **rider fan** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:24 pm

DavidinLA wrote:
rider fan wrote:Many, many of these types of products also contain (but do not list) black market derivities of Sildenafil (Viagra) cooked up in labs in India.
Are they allowed to do this without listing the chemical as an ingredient and the sell it in the U.S. (or most western nations)? It sounds like that is a lawsuit waiting to happen.

It really doesn't matter whether they are allowed to or not since (I repeat) there is essentially NO effective regulatory oversight of the supplement industry, at least in North America. I'd imagine that there is a paragraph in some act somewhere that says they must list all ingredients. The supplements themselves can be produced in North America while the imitation Viagra is imported from who knows where. Large well known supplement retailers are selling this stuff every day.

missionpossible · Post by **missionpossible** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:58 am

I was just surprised that Viagra didn't help

If VIAGRA did not help what did?[/quote]

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