Hey everyone,
I'm wondering if there are others here who have lower back pain as their only or main symptom. I do have right testicular pain, but it's really not that bad and seems to go away when I stretch a lot. My lower back pain is to either side of my spinal column, right about where my back meets my upper buttocks. As the day wears on, it starts to radiate around my pelvic girdle and down into my upper thighs. It usually only hurts when I've been standing for a while and goes a way if I sit even for just a few moments or if I stretch out my hamstrings.
Is this common chronic prostatitis / chronic pelvic pain syndrome signs and symptoms? I know I have chronic prostatitis / chronic pelvic pain syndrome to a certain extent, but the back pain is by far the worse symptoms, and the one that drives me to dark thoughts. Might I be barking up the wrong tree by looking at the back pain as CPPS? As always, thanks for your time!
Shayne
Lower back pain
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sam5935
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Lower back pain
Age:34 | Onset Age: 32 | Symptoms: Right testicular ,generalized discomfort in pelvis/lower abdomen, low back pain | Helped By: Not sureNot sure what else yet | Worsened By: Sitting , standing
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Hi Shayne,
Does you back pain come on after urination or defecation? I sometimes get mine immediately after these acts--though could be minutes before the set in.
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Does you back pain come on after urination or defecation? I sometimes get mine immediately after these acts--though could be minutes before the set in.
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Age: 26 | Onset Age: 25 | Symptoms: Current--Perenial Tightness and dull pains, occasional nerve sensitivities, minor frequency, and some stress. Initial--Urinary Frequency (~12 times per day), Urgency, Nocturia, Back Pain, Penis Tip Pain, Stress Overload | Helped By: Mild Exercise, Yoga, Physical Therapy, A glass or two of alcohol | Worsened By: Ativan (just don't take it), Binge Drinking, Stress, Sitting, Cold Medicine
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After I take a dump, my ass typically burns.
Age:37 | Onset Age: 35 | Symptoms: pain in testicles that comes and goes that also switches sides-trying to find a pattern as to "why" this happens/Rectal Burn at the 6 O'clock position at my anus which tends to flare around the periphery of my anus typically after defication but no perineum pain-no "golf ball" pain. Pain in testicles worsens as I sit but not always...Pain is not always present but depresses me. Pain used to be at a very high level but has subsided in time to a low level but has not gone away. Pain used to flare after sex but not as much as before although it still like playing russian roulette./
/Lack of SleepHelped By: I haven't found anything that has helped to my knowledge. Tried many many sessions of PT, accupuncture and chiropractic care but still have not found steady relief that takes me back to a pre CPPS state.
/Lack of SleepHelped By: I haven't found anything that has helped to my knowledge. Tried many many sessions of PT, accupuncture and chiropractic care but still have not found steady relief that takes me back to a pre CPPS state.
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sam5935
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I never get any of those things. I've never had pain upon urination or defecation, no anus pain, really no pain except lower abdomen into my right testicle(which seems to get much better with stretching) and then this diffuse lower back pain that seems to originate in a couple of points just to the left and right of my spine where my upper buttocks starts. As the day wears on , it starts to spread out into the hip girdle, then the upper thighs. It also tends to spread down into my legs even as far as my calves...I would think it's sciatica but it's not the sharp, shooting sensation I've always read about.
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Age:34 | Onset Age: 32 | Symptoms: Right testicular ,generalized discomfort in pelvis/lower abdomen, low back pain | Helped By: Not sureNot sure what else yet | Worsened By: Sitting , standing
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Yes Sam back pain is common for many of us. NoMoPain & chronic prostatitis / chronic pelvic pain syndrome Dad have had this if you want to know of some big hitters who have recovered well.
I get it too. Tends to be intermittent & flares up when my pelvic pain calms down. Yes it can give you dark thoughts like "not this as well" and "What if it becomes chronic"?
The good news is -
- Back pain is very common in the population at large.
- The best thing you can do for it is keep active & not worry about it!
- Trigger points often a big factor in back pain
What has helped me a lot is -
Stretching the opposite way to how you sit (do you sit a lot?) if that makes sense? Look up the cobra stretch on here or the internet for example. Also I lie face forward on the floor with arms outstretched & raise my upper torso from my waist and hold it for a few seconds. Maybe 8 / 10 repetitions. You can also when standing stretch your arms high over your head and tilt your torso backwards which is a similar stretch.
You are right to stretch your hamstrings but dont overdo it & be wary if you do have very tight hamstrings with possible trigger points.
Most of all though the poas muscle is crucial in back pain cases. Its all to do with muscles over-compensating for other muscles. There's loads of science on the subject. Many people find relief from back pain by releasing tension and trigger points in the poas muscle which is a huge muscle running from your groin under your abdominal muscles right up to your chest (probably not very accurate description). If you do have a Theracane or are receiving physical therapy ask about this muscle or work on your stomach muscles as I am learning to do so.
Good luck!
P.S - For me also just thinking about back pain can bring it on - no joke
So I'll stop writing now!!
Greg
I get it too. Tends to be intermittent & flares up when my pelvic pain calms down. Yes it can give you dark thoughts like "not this as well" and "What if it becomes chronic"?
The good news is -
- Back pain is very common in the population at large.
- The best thing you can do for it is keep active & not worry about it!
- Trigger points often a big factor in back pain
What has helped me a lot is -
Stretching the opposite way to how you sit (do you sit a lot?) if that makes sense? Look up the cobra stretch on here or the internet for example. Also I lie face forward on the floor with arms outstretched & raise my upper torso from my waist and hold it for a few seconds. Maybe 8 / 10 repetitions. You can also when standing stretch your arms high over your head and tilt your torso backwards which is a similar stretch.
You are right to stretch your hamstrings but dont overdo it & be wary if you do have very tight hamstrings with possible trigger points.
Most of all though the poas muscle is crucial in back pain cases. Its all to do with muscles over-compensating for other muscles. There's loads of science on the subject. Many people find relief from back pain by releasing tension and trigger points in the poas muscle which is a huge muscle running from your groin under your abdominal muscles right up to your chest (probably not very accurate description). If you do have a Theracane or are receiving physical therapy ask about this muscle or work on your stomach muscles as I am learning to do so.
Good luck!
P.S - For me also just thinking about back pain can bring it on - no joke
So I'll stop writing now!!Greg
Age: 29 | Onset Age: 26 | Symptoms: initially severe burning throughout pelvis - much better; muscles spasms all over region, back pain, chronic IBS (much better) | Helped By: Psychotherapy, SP stretches, swimming, accepting the condition (understanding there is treatment); stress/anxiety management; possibly basic quercetin; valerian root, vit B & calc & magn supplements; gluten avoidance & especially dealing with chronic constipation. | Worsened By: stress / anxiety, too much sex; repressed emotions; personality goodist traits. 80% better
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MB
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sam5935 wrote:I never get any of those things. I've never had pain upon urination or defecation, no anus pain, really no pain except lower abdomen into my right testicle(which seems to get much better with stretching) and then this diffuse lower back pain that seems to originate in a couple of points just to the left and right of my spine where my upper buttocks starts. As the day wears on , it starts to spread out into the hip girdle, then the upper thighs. It also tends to spread down into my legs even as far as my calves...I would think it's sciatica but it's not the sharp, shooting sensation I've always read about.
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Shayne,
have you been checked for an inguinal hernia?
Age:46 | Onset Age: 43 | Symptoms: Burning | Helped By: Sleep/Ultram | Worsened By: As the day goes by
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sam5935
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I've had a manual check for a hernia but not an MRI. I plan on lobbying for one from my HMO. I've wondered if I have one that they've missed...
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Age:34 | Onset Age: 32 | Symptoms: Right testicular ,generalized discomfort in pelvis/lower abdomen, low back pain | Helped By: Not sureNot sure what else yet | Worsened By: Sitting , standing
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MB
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A doctor's physical examination is sometimes not enough to diagnose a hernia. You should have a herniography performed.
I know of one person on this forum that had an undetected hernia which was misdiagnosed as prostatitis. That person is cured now.
I know of one person on this forum that had an undetected hernia which was misdiagnosed as prostatitis. That person is cured now.
Age:46 | Onset Age: 43 | Symptoms: Burning | Helped By: Sleep/Ultram | Worsened By: As the day goes by
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