Muscle spasms/ fluttering?

[GARYS]

I have a new problem that I was hoping someone could shed some light on. Lately I have actually been able to feel something spasming (almost feels more like a fluttering) inside about where the prostate or one of the sphincters are located. It feels like the muscle that spasms when you have an orgasm. It doesn't hurt pain wise, but lying down at night or sitting still I can really feel this and its starting to drive me crazy. It feels the same as when you can feel a muscle start spasming in your arm and you try looking to see if you can actually see it moving. Does anyone know of a good stretch for this spot or how to stop it.
Thanks

[rider fan]

I actually have the same thing sometimes, including today. Just try to relax and not let it bother you. A hot shower or bath may help. Some use Flexeril or a benzo.

[alprost]

Every time I had this symptom it was related to trigger points. When the relevant one was treated, the fluttering stopped.

[scoobysnacks]

I also had this symptom at first, it was quite bad. It went away with time, stretching and massage.

[LightningTree]

Exactly as the posters above said.

Same symptom. It went away with time. It was mostly episodic. When it happened, it was a dancing show down there. When they were calm, they were calm.

You might be talking about your bulborethral muscle or one of thr transverse perieneals. I was quite dismayed when this first happened, as the pain that day was awful, and I had to stand in line for several hours at a post 9/11 post office in Brooklyn. (not a fun memory)

Anyways, this will improve when the muscles and nerves are less irritated. I no longer get this symptom there.

(Although, occasionally my gluteals still do this.)

[gifford]

I see from this site that neither valium or Flexeril is recommended for daily , long term use. (I have been on 5mg-10mg/day for 9 months now Also I have been taking a Flexeril for many months also every 2-3 days. If both of these are bad for long term daily use, what is an alternative?
gifford

[scoobysnacks]

Gifford,

The alternative is embracing AHIP fully. You might want to talk to you doc about decreasing the doses and weaning off. Then get down to days where you are only taking every other, etc and so forth. Only after 3 mos of taking 1mg three times daily of Ativan I was hooked. Instinctively, I began breaking the tabs in half, then taking only two, then one etc and so forth. I didn't know it, but if you cease Ativan all at once it can cause seizures. Speak to your doc.

If you aren't doing AHIP I would start. Its taken me 7 mos to embrace it fully, meaning relaxation, stretching (though the ones in the book weren't enough, I do yoga), and internal and external massage of trouble areas. I do all together twice daily, once in morning, yes I have to get up an hour earlier and at night first thing upon returning from work. And it is tough work, but I'm determined to get over this.

I hope this helped a bit.

SS

[gifford]

Only after 3 mos of taking 1mg three times daily of Ativan I was hooked. Instinctively, I began breaking the tabs in half, then taking only two, then one etc and so forth. I didn't know it, but if you cease Ativan all at once it can cause seizures.

How did you know you were "hooked"? What were your symptoms?
Did you have seizures?
I have cut off valium completely for a day or so. Had no ill effects that I could tell.
No emotional or physical "need" that I was aware of.. Just more pain.

gifford

[chrisjiujitsu]

gary,

I had the same symptom but in a different spot (lower abdomen close to pelvic bone). This did not hurt for me either and the muscle could jump nearly a thousand times in a given day. I have mentioned this to doctors and they have sort of brushed it off and given me a standard protocol of exercises to do which didn't include the muscle spasming. Lately I have come to realize that this was my body telling me something. The muscle is jumping because it wants my attention obviously. It probably wants some sort of stretching and exercise and maybe a massage or two and a bed time story. Sorry I don't have a solution because I have only done the standard protocol the doctors gave me. This site seems to mention a lot about yoga which looks promising. My spasming did go away, came back and went away again. I have not had it in about a year or so, but I have not forgotten that this may be a important clue to my cure.

If you havent done it yet, try some kegels. I very much doubt these muscles will continue to spasm after you give them a workout, if you are able to target them.

[PagesOfTime]

I think I'm having this very same problem. It only happens when I lay down to go to bed though. Although this is the worst cause you can't fall asleep when you keep having spasms disturbing you every minute.

[scoobysnacks]

I knew I was hooked for two reasons.

When I tried to sleep at night I had this weird feeling, like I was outside my body, or something, hard to explain, but it kept me WIDE awake. I would take a half dose, it would go away and I could sleep. Not good.

I also felt very anxious almost like on speed when I started dropping my doses, though this subsided relatively quickly.

Luckily I'm not an addictive personality, and I hate taking foreign medicines, so I weaned off fairly easy.

[LightningTree]

Those fasciculations can be a sign of something serious, so show them to your doctor if you can.

On the other hand, I had them, and they eventually went away. What is really important is that with CPPS, things down there get irritated, and many of us experience these muscle twitch storms.

This site discusses some of the benign and less benign causes of muscle twitching.

Notice that myopathy, that is, muscle pain and irritation, can cause these. But so can nerve damage or muscle and nerve diseases. That's why its important to see your doctor. But be aware that there are benign cases of this condition as well, and that this occurs with generalized CPPS. I had it.

In my experience, do the things that will reduce anxiety, physical muscle tension, and nerve irritation, and consult your doctor.

[PagesOfTime]

Mine just started this week, as I read A HEADACHE IN THE PELVIS, I have been trying moment to moment relaxion, keeping my pelvic muscles relaxed. My spasms are these muscles involuntarily clinching back up. I can't go to sleep unless I'm clinched. This doesn't seem normal...is it?

[scoobysnacks]

Mine just started this week, as I read A HEADACHE IN THE PELVIS, I have been trying moment to moment relaxation, keeping my pelvic muscles relaxed. My spasms are these muscles involuntarily clinching back up. I can't go to sleep unless I'm clinched. This doesn't seem normal...is it?

I actually had this, and you could probably find posts about it. At the very beginning if I tried to relax the floor, the muscles around the bladder would actually tighten or spasm. Then I would also get spasms at night as the anal sphincter relaxed where it would tighten again to where it "felt" normal. Of course normal had become the tightened phase. I have worked through much of it with internal massage and stretching.

I do agree get checked out, but this was the case for many of us at the very beginning of this conditions.

Good Luck!