Internal Trigger Point Question

[brianinthenorthwoods]

Is it practical or even possible to do Internal Trigger Point on yourself? Where can you find the wand that one would need in order to do this? As always any suggestions are appreciated.

[scotsman]

I do internal triggerpoint work on myself 3 times a week.

You don't need a wand - just use your own index fingers. You'd be amazed how little you need to go in to do the work (anything from a couple of mm to a couple inches). I remember asking my physio at the start how far he was going in one time, as it felt like he was up to his elbow, only for him to tell me that he wasn't even to the first joint on his index finger.

The new edition (3rd) of the Headache in the Pelvis has diagrams of internal triggerpoint areas with a finger graphic on top. Worth a look.

Richard.

[winding_road]

but if go deeper (using something), not toward the prostate but to the right or especially left there is a incredible pain, and I do think it is a trigger point. I think Dr Anderson went that deep. don t you think you might be missing those important points ?

[lupus]

In my case I dont need no go that further,just a couple of centimeters to reach the levator ani where all my TP are located,in fact extremely close to there I feel something like a calcification ,very hard to the touch ,is it posible to have a calcification on a muscle?

[scotsman]

but if go deeper (using something), not toward the prostate but to the right or especially left there is a incredible pain, and I do think it is a trigger point. I think Dr Anderson went that deep. don t you think you might be missing those important points ?

I've had around 50 PT sessions as well with a physio - who, just via the angle of treatment has, I believe, covered the whole area.

However, I've not had physio from him since before Xmas and it's entirely feasible that there are triggerpoints around that I'm not reaching myself.

If there was a good tool available then I would probably try it out, in conjunction to using my own fingers (I do have long fingers btw and I'm very supple) but I would probably miss the feedback my own finger tips gave me.

Richard.

[winding_road]

scotsman wrote:

...50 PT sessions as well with a physio...

stupid question : what do you mean here by physio ?

thanks

[CppsDad]

He means physical therapist I believe.

Back to the original question though - some people aren't very flexible, and can't quite do work internally so easily. Richard, I think it would be informative if you actually described how you do the internal work on yourself, such as what position you lay in, how you reach down there, etc... as well as how long it took you to be able to achieve the flexibility you must now have.

Brian, if you want a massage implement, I use the Crystal Wand when I don't have a partner or therapist to help me. Richard is right that you don't get feedback, so it's not ideal. But it works and you can reach a lot of trigger points.

Mike

[scotsman]

He means physical therapist I believe.

Yes, a physical therapist.

Back to the original question though - some people aren't very flexible, and can't quite do work internally so easily. Richard, I think it would be informative if you actually described how you do the internal work on yourself, such as what position you lay in, how you reach down there, etc... as well as how long it took you to be able to achieve the flexibility you must now have.

I lie on the floor, first on my left hand side and use a non-latex glove with some KY jelly on my right hand. I reach down between my legs and, after inserting my finger in my anus, I do the triggerpoints at 12 o'clock (basically right under my perineum) then extract my finger and draw my right leg up and reach around behind it (i.e. not through my legs) and do the triggerpoints from 6 o'clock round to 12 o'clock at that side (the right). Once I've done them I turn over and lie on the right and do the same as before but with my left hand. It usually takes me around 20 mins per session to do both sides. I've been paying a lot of attention recently to the area around my coxic - and when treating that I've been lying more on my stomach and reaching right round (with either hand).

I've always been very flexible. I did Ninjitsu (a martial art) for 4 years which certainly helped. I'm also pretty tall (6'4") with long arms and fingers which helps.

Brian, if you want a massage implement, I use the Crystal Wand when I don't have a partner or therapist to help me. Richard is right that you don't get feedback, so it's not ideal. But it works and you can reach a lot of trigger points.

I think I'll send off for a crystal wand as well - certainly worth trying it out to make sure I'm not missing some deeper triggerpoints.

Richard.

[MastCells]

He means physical therapist I believe.

Yes, a physical therapist.

Physical therapist, AKA physiotherapist; hence the abbreviation "physio." Capice?

[scotsman]

Mike - re the Crystal Wand. Would you recommend the 'normal' one or the Deluxe one (thinner) - both shown at the top of this web page.

Richard.

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[scotsman]

Indeed

Necessity is a great motivator.

[webslave]

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[CppsDad]

I think I have the thicker one. I can't comment on the thinner one. I will say that my one big complaint with the crystal wand is that it is small (short), and hard to hold sometimes once it has been inserted into the rectum and you have lubricant all over your hand. I definitely would feel uncomfortable with the thinner version, as I would worry it would break (I don't want to worry about being gentle). Also, because the wand is HARD, it already hurts more than a soft finger pressing into a trigger point. I think using a thinner wand would hurt even worse.

How low we have to stoop, eh

I'm stooping all right. Definitely stooping...

Mike

[scotsman]

Thanks Mike - and Mark. Going to order the thicker one.