for those familiar w Medical Schools and M. research

[winding_road]

I think I might not be the only who thought about going to a medical school. What seem extremley though is to switch to medical science and go for MD , and after that Urology.. I will be 50 before doing what I want.

I am doing a Phd in statistics and this might actually be helpful. But If I go to Biostatistics I am not sure if I can do the research that I want. I have no idea, but I feel biostatisticians, wait for data sets, read the theory and try to look for some trends, causalities,.... in the data.

I am wondering, how are those people who publish in J of Urology and J of Int Impotence and others ? I guess there are not all Uros right ?

I know is that there Are many diplomas that one can get and do medical reserach afterwards. Which one is more suitable if one want to really dedicate himslef to the chronic prostatitis / chronic pelvic pain syndrome problem ? ( Cell and Neurobiology , Pathology, Neurosciences, Molecular Microbiology & Immunology ...)

But thinking again, how the chronic prostatitis / chronic pelvic pain syndrome problem is a multidisiplinary, it is hard to find a clear route


well I would appreciate if anyone have any knowledge on this process and like to share it. Is there anywhere in the world some LAB at some school that is dedicated to chronic prostatitis / chronic pelvic pain syndrome !

a you see I am not familiar with Med. Schools and M. reserach , I guess in other sciences it is more straightforward, you take your Phd and do what you want as research and join the Lab of your interest ...

[MastCells]

I think I might not be the only who thought about going to a medical school. What seem extremley though is to switch to medical science and go for MD , and after that Urology.. I will be 50 before doing what I want.

Maybe you could get a PhD or MS in something other than statistics and do basic science research. There are plenty of scientists working on chronic pain disorders and erectile dysfunction who are not MDs. Although urology is "multidisciplinary" (deals with the management of surgical and medical conditions), most uros focus on the crude practice of slicing and dicing old men for money. IMO, the majority of uros are completely ignorant of CPPS. Of course, there are a few exceptions such as Shoskes and Anderson.

I am doing a Phd in statistics and this might actually be helpful.

Statisticians are extremely valuable to urological research. Who says you need to become a urologist to make a contribution to this field?

I am wondering, how are those people who publish in J of Urology and J of Int Impotence and others ? I guess there are not all Uros right ?

Right! Even Dave Trissel of the Prostatitis Foundation has published in "Urology" (more prestigious than "The Journal of Urology"). Is Trissel a urologist or medical expert of any kind? No way! He has no medical qualifications whatsoever. In fact, he's a complete moron. (Sorry, but it's the truth!)

[LightningTree]

I just finished my PhD in computers. Now I spend my nights researching medical literature. If I were 12 years younger, then I would start over and study chronic pain conditions.

I agree with the above post that perhaps we can have an impact on research without getting medical degrees. Maybe we can find a way to study this phenomena.

I guess the trouble is, I don't know that anyone will figure it out without entirely probing a live specimen over many circadian cycles for years. Immunology, endocrinology, protein expression, and large-scale morphology, etc, might all contribute knowledge of factors causing the disorder.

Quite frankly, there are so many syndromes in which tissue irritation remains unexplained that I can't help feel that big and important pieces of science are still missing from the picture.

I guess the question is, do you really want to study medicine? What would happen if you were to accept or improve your condition while you were earning a medical degree? Are you studying statistics because of a passion for mathematics?

[Ddream]

Select the area and occupation that would bring you more joy. You could try out a fellowship at different institutions to see which you like best.

[winding_road]

Mast cells wrote :

Even Dave Trissel of the Prostatitis Foundation has published in "Urology" (more prestigious than "The Journal of Urology"). Is Trissel a urologist or medical expert of any kind? No way! He has no medical qualifications whatsoever. In fact, he's a complete moron. (Sorry, but it's the truth!)

this gives me a lot of hope thanks. together with what you said about statistics. I am sure it is needed. I am thinking maybe I could go to biostatistics cause I get to choose which classes I can take in biology and which syndrme I would like to study.

yes lighteningtree and Ddream, my motivation of course come from my wish to overcome this problem but not only from that...
I do like maths and statistics and the subjects I am applying these methods to, but even if I completley recover, I changed as a person.
I started appreciating more and more those people who stay in the lab working for solutions to human diseases and puzzling syndromes, more than ever.

[dshoskes]

Right! Even Dave Trissel of the Prostatitis Foundation has published in "Urology" (more prestigious than "The Journal of Urology"). Is Trissel a urologist or medical expert of any kind? No way! He has no medical qualifications whatsoever. In fact, he's a complete moron. (Sorry, but it's the truth!)

Not that it's terribly important, but the Journal of Urology is considered the top journal in the profession. Urology has greatly closed the gap in recent years and does some very innovative things, but if a Urologist subscribes to only 1 journal, it is usually J Urol.

[MastCells]

Not that it's terribly important, but the Journal of Urology is considered the top journal in the profession. Urology has greatly closed the gap in recent years and does some very innovative things, but if a Urologist subscribes to only 1 journal, it is usually J Urol.

My bad...You're right. Also, The Journal of Urology currently has an impact factor of 3.297, and I believe that is higher than that of Urology; I'm not sure what the latter's current impact factor is, but in 2003, it was 2.782.

[LightningTree]

I am thinking maybe I could go to biostatistics cause I get to choose which classes I can take in biology and which syndrme I would like to study.

I think biostatistics sounds like a great idea!