UCPPS - Prostatitis, Interstitial Cystitis Forum

I wanted to thank the administrators for maintaining this board......I truly appreciate your efforts!

I had a couple of questions for everybody............

Did anyone ever have cloudy urine with no sign of infection?

Do the guys over 40 routinely have high PSA levels when given their annual urological exam?

Finally, has anyone ever had prostatic fluid leak during or after a bowel movement or after an erection while urinating?

Thanks for your answers...I hope to put my mind at ease regarding these topics.

cloudy urine simply means you are voiding some seminal fluid. This is normal. When I was symptomatic I wasted much time staring at my urine in glasses for cloudiness. It was a waste of my time based on the prevailing infection theories of the 1990's. I hope no one nowadays does this.

Be well,

Robert Pagen

ml2006 wrote:Do the guys over 40 routinely have high PSA levels when given their annual urological exam?

High PSA levels may be normal for some men it's in their genes. Prostatitis itself can lead to high PSA readings.

A high PSA score means you should have another PSA test before you have a biopsy:
http://www.webmd.com/content/article/65/72746.htm

PSA levels usually rise with age, but this is a complex issue:
http://www.phoenix5.org/Basics/UndPSAJH.html

Finally, has anyone ever had prostatic fluid leak during or after a bowel movement or after an erection while urinating?

This is frequently reported on this forum, and not significant IMO.

Thanks for the info.

Robert-are you currently free of symptoms?

I have had cloudy urine for about 10 years now and sample after sample has repeatedly come back with no sign of infection.

For years I simply could not accept this was the case, after all I was handing the doc on occasion a sample that looked like milk. "Is this a urine sample?" I was once asked.

I would say it has got progressively more cloudy over the years but I've never been able to tie it down to a particular cause. I would rank this as my number one "mind fuck" with this condition as it is always at the back of my mind and can pull me down when I'm otherwise doing well.

Hopefully it may be of some comfort to you to know that I've had this for so long and really it hasn't been an indicator of anything other than I have CPPS.

I too have had cloudy urine since I have been symptomatic with CPPS, the research that I found was that cloudy signifies that the kidney's are not functioning properly or there is an infection.

I have been on an alphablocker since the very beginning of my onset, and some members state that it's semen in the urine causing the cloudiness. I know that alphablockers decrease the amount of semen ejaculated.

I had the urologist give me another CT scan to check my kidney's are okay. Is it reasonable to assume that if nothing remarkable is found on the CT scan then my kidney's are functioning well and it's just semen? My pain now is primarily in my lower back.

Are CT scans the best indicator of kidney function? I have had a few blood test but that was for uric acid as the ER told me I probably had a kidney stone (now laughable).

gmccormack wrote:I too have had cloudy urine

The most common cause of cloudy urine is totally harmless. Excess phosphate crystals can build up in your urine. These crystals then precipitate and make your urine cloudy. This typically happens after eating a large meal, or sometimes after drinking milk, which is high in phosphate. You can test to see if your urine cloudiness is due to phosphates. Simply take a small sample of your urine and drop a bit of acetic acid (vinegar) in to it. If it is phosphates, the urine will become completely clear immediately.

Taken from this link.

Are CT scans the best indicator of kidney function?

Unless a urologist answers this question, I would not take too much notice of any answers you may get. :alert: