ejaculation frequency..

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My symptoms get completely relieved by ejaculation. Does that mean I should engage in it everytime I get a flare-up. People have mixed opinions about this. But is a daily ritual too taxing for healing of pelvic muscles?
Primary symptom = pelvic pain after urination that lasts for long. no pain in the night, urinary frequency = 5/6 times a day, none at night.
I am trying to avoid taking Ativan.
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34 yr consultant, suffering from intermittently past 2 yrs. Tried various prostate supplements, symptoms relieved by ejaculation.
Symptoms- pain at tip and base of penis, urge to urinate (can hold off for hrs), dribbling at end of urination
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My pain used to be nearly totally alleviated by ejac too for the first 18 months of this crap. In the last few months it has changed and ejaculation no longer relieves pain, it brings it on most of the time within a few hours. I wouldn't count on it to continually relieve all your pain. I think in the long run it makes things worse even though temporarily it relieves your symptoms.
Age: 45 Onset: 43. | Symptoms: Tightness, spasms, burning and pain in the perineum. Occassional mild pain after urination in the perineum. Helped by: Cardura, quitting caffiene, relaxation, fiber, stand up workstation and some PT a year ago. Makes Worse: ANXIETY, ULTRAM, going to work, sitting or squatting too long, constipation (big problems), stress, and sometimes unexplainable.
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The only thing I would definitely stay away from is multiple orgasms in one day. The seems to bring trouble for most of us.
Age: 32 | Symptoms: Twingy pain/muscle spasms in groin area (gone), tingling sensation at tip of penis (has resolved as of now), urinary frequency (resolved as of now), thicker/decreased amount of semen (resolved as of now). Makes better: Stretching, Relaxing pelvic muscles, moment to moment relaxation, not sitting with legs crossed, Elavil, quercetin. Makes worse: Sitting, stress, more than one orgasm/day, constipation, manual labour
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Wouldn't it be better to periodically expel the inflammatory substances trapped in prostate, caused by the nerve & muscle inflammation?
If multiple orgasms in a day is too much, would a daily or every other day be too frequent?. I understand everybody is different, but am trying to see what the average or median is.
My urologist had asked to be daily, but based on what everybody had to say on this board I had refrained, earlier.
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34 yr consultant, suffering from intermittently past 2 yrs. Tried various prostate supplements, symptoms relieved by ejaculation.
Symptoms- pain at tip and base of penis, urge to urinate (can hold off for hrs), dribbling at end of urination
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I would listen to your body. If you feel much better after ejaculation, then do it as often as you feel like it. Test and modify has been what has helped me the most when it comes to many areas.

Good luck
Age:34 | Onset Age:29 | Symptoms: Suprapubic burning on and off, frequency on and off, Dribbling, | Helped By: PT for sure has helped me, stretching, Baking Soda, drinking lots of water, Omega 3 | Worsened By: Concentrated urine, Coffee, Stress...
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I agree with Paso. Also consider why your mind might approve of this practice.

This is not medical advice, and I am NOT a doctor of medicine or a related field.
* Age:33 Onset: February 2004.
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* Current Symptoms: Mild irritation of perineal muscles on occasion. Relieved for days at a time by a specific stretch (see below).
* Initial Symptoms: Terrible penile, urethral, rectal, and perineal burning/aching with addition afferent sensations.
* Current Treatments: Deep stretching of the legs and pelvis. Most effective: Deep psoas and levitar ani stretch using the first phase of the "pigeon pose" from Yoga. When a deep pulling is felt in the middle of the pelvis next to the upper rectum, symptoms are completely alleviated for several days.
* Past Treatments Hyperprotection of the perineum for 1.7 years, Walking, Rectal biofeedback, Stanford/Wise-Anderson Protocol, Conditioned deep relaxation practice, Men's Multi-Vitamin and an Extra B-complex pill, all seemed to help.
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I will listen to what the body is saying & try to be daily, in that case..However, I hope this does not in any way impede the healing of the muscles/nerves, like somebody mentioned in an earlier post.
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34 yr consultant, suffering from intermittently past 2 yrs. Tried various prostate supplements, symptoms relieved by ejaculation.
Symptoms- pain at tip and base of penis, urge to urinate (can hold off for hrs), dribbling at end of urination
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Jerseyguy,

Still exercise reason. I would not let any session last longer than 15 minutes.
Prolonged erection creates irritation over time, in my experience.

Also, if you begin to experienced decreased mood, rethink the approach.

This is not medical advice, and I am NOT a doctor of medicine or a related field.
* Age:33 Onset: February 2004.
* 99.9% IMPROVEMENT in 2.5 Years with the first year being the really hard part
* Current Symptoms: Mild irritation of perineal muscles on occasion. Relieved for days at a time by a specific stretch (see below).
* Initial Symptoms: Terrible penile, urethral, rectal, and perineal burning/aching with addition afferent sensations.
* Current Treatments: Deep stretching of the legs and pelvis. Most effective: Deep psoas and levitar ani stretch using the first phase of the "pigeon pose" from Yoga. When a deep pulling is felt in the middle of the pelvis next to the upper rectum, symptoms are completely alleviated for several days.
* Past Treatments Hyperprotection of the perineum for 1.7 years, Walking, Rectal biofeedback, Stanford/Wise-Anderson Protocol, Conditioned deep relaxation practice, Men's Multi-Vitamin and an Extra B-complex pill, all seemed to help.
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jerseyguy wrote:Wouldn't it be better to periodically expel the inflammatory substances trapped in prostate, caused by the nerve & muscle inflammation?
If multiple orgasms in a day is too much, would a daily or every other day be too frequent?. I understand everybody is different, but am trying to see what the average or median is.
My urologist had asked to be daily, but based on what everybody had to say on this board I had refrained, earlier.
Thanks
Sure, I think peroidic expulsion is important. My schedule is every second or third day. I figure that is enough to keep things flowing, but it keeps the muscles from getting overstressed.
Age: 32 | Symptoms: Twingy pain/muscle spasms in groin area (gone), tingling sensation at tip of penis (has resolved as of now), urinary frequency (resolved as of now), thicker/decreased amount of semen (resolved as of now). Makes better: Stretching, Relaxing pelvic muscles, moment to moment relaxation, not sitting with legs crossed, Elavil, quercetin. Makes worse: Sitting, stress, more than one orgasm/day, constipation, manual labour
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This has been playing on my mind since 2 days. I did not ejaculate since 2 weeks now. The last time I did I felt uncomfortable for the rest of the day. One of the reasons for not ejaculating is, my arousals are painful (80%) of the time.

So my question is, should I try ejaculating (if I did not get a painful arousal)? Will I be exacerbating the problem by NOT ejaculating at all? Please let me know.

Thank you,
Joe.
PS: I know that this issue totally depends on each individual's condition. I've read in AHIP that increasing the ejaculation frequency is not good. And similarly not ejaculating at all isn't good too. So, please help me decide.
  • Age: 26yrs.
  • Onset: Nov 2005.
  • Initially: Lots of penal pain, , urinary frequency, urgency, painful erections.
  • Now: Intermittent Penal pain, constant buttock pain while sitting, painful arousals, pain after ejaculation.
  • Medication used till Apr 2006: Cipro, Ceftum, Doxycycline, Gatafloxacin, Lamifloxacin, Prosta-Q
  • Current Medication: nil;
  • Things that make me feel better: stretching, walking, therapy, hot showers
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joehansen12 wrote:This has been playing on my mind since 2 days. I did not ejaculate since 2 weeks now. The last time I did I felt uncomfortable for the rest of the day. One of the reasons for not ejaculating is, my arousals are painful (80%) of the time.

So my question is, should I try ejaculating (if I did not get a painful arousal)? Will I be exacerbating the problem by NOT ejaculating at all? Please let me know.

Thank you,
Joe.
PS: I know that this issue totally depends on each individual's condition. I've read in AHIP that increasing the ejaculation frequency is not good. And similarly not ejaculating at all isn't good too. So, please help me decide.
Keep in mind that this is only my opinion since there are no real rules on this, but I would be inclined to ejaculate every few days, or at least once a week. But I really have no idea, you have to do what you feel comfortable with I guess.
Age: 32 | Symptoms: Twingy pain/muscle spasms in groin area (gone), tingling sensation at tip of penis (has resolved as of now), urinary frequency (resolved as of now), thicker/decreased amount of semen (resolved as of now). Makes better: Stretching, Relaxing pelvic muscles, moment to moment relaxation, not sitting with legs crossed, Elavil, quercetin. Makes worse: Sitting, stress, more than one orgasm/day, constipation, manual labour
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Aside from valium, the only thing that relieves my symptoms is ejaculation. I typically do this once a day 6-7 days a week, which has been my normal regiment since I was roughly 15 years old. I wish I knew why ejaculation is the only thing that relieves me, and when I say it relieves my pain, it REALLY relieves my pain: less frequency, pain in rectum gone, back / ab pain relaxed etc. Now the kicker is, if I wait several days(3 or more) to ejaculate, I get a very painful stinging feeling up in my rectum when I reach climax.

Too bad my g/f still doesn't believe that my strong desire to fool around all the time is really related to my need for relief from chronic prostatitis / chronic pelvic pain syndrome :(
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Wouldn't it be better to periodically expel the inflammatory substances trapped in prostate, caused by the nerve & muscle inflammation?
This odds are that you have no inflammatory substances trapped in the prostate. Have you ever had a test that confirmed you had infectious material in there? As you know from reading this site's guidelines, discussions about hidden bacterias in the prostate that need to be excreted are forbidden, for many reasons that I won't go in to but you can read up on yourself. The source of your pain is probably muscular in nature, and is probably irritating your prostate. You are probably feeling relief from the release of tension in the muscles that surrounds the prostate (muscles that are in pain), as well as from the general endorphines that are released into the system at the same time. If you do some reading about sexual arousal, you'll see that pain threshhold levels are much higher during climax.

I agree with treynor33 - reducing pain this way may work for a while, but it may not be helping you overall. This type of pain reduction is similar to taking pain medication that masks the pain. You really need to focus on the SOURCE of your pain. Your sources are probably trigger points and tense muscles around the prostate and urethra. If you don't treat these, they'll get worse and no amount of tension-reduction via sex will help you. For me, pain medications eventually did no good. Although I thought they helped for 18 months or so - but they were just masking a growing problem.
One of the reasons for not ejaculating is, my arousals are painful (80%) of the time.
johannsen - arousal was one of the most painful symptoms for me. My pain would start immediately upon arousal, even very basic arousal (such as thinking about sex). I complained about this a lot in my early posts on this forum. Even today, when I am in a mild-flare-up, arousal is slightly uncomfortable. I will say that for me, most of that pain was in my perineal area. The squat stretch, and Theracane in that region were key to getting rid of arousal type pain.

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Age: 43 CPPS: 10+ Yrs Recovery Status: 80-85% Symptoms: Pain in testicles, scrotum, rectum, prostate, perineum Makes Worse: Anxiety, Tension, too much Nookie Makes Better: Stretching, Abdominal Massage (Go Theracane!), Relaxation
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CppsDad wrote
As you know from reading this site's guidelines, discussions about hidden bacterias in the prostate that need to be excreted are forbidden,
I would have to disagree with this stance, not that I believe that bacteria is the cause of CPPS. Its just that as soon as someone mentions the word bacteria they are shot down and chastised. A more diplomatic approach would be favourable, especially if they are new on this site. We are here to help each other, right?

Now getting back on track, ejaculation varies with me sometimes it relieves things and sometimes it does not. Depends on what state my muscles are at.

Tom
Age 43: Onset June 2005, Initially: perineal pain, discomfort in penis, very sensitive, sometimes burning. Red around the urethra on penis. Increased urination during night, problems with stream, sometimes constant urge to urinate. Exercise and moving around and laying down helps. Sitting down and squatting makes it worse. Improved to about 85-95%. Symptoms usually mild pain near belly button and slight urge to urinate.
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Astrotitan wrote:CppsDad wrote
As you know from reading this site's guidelines, discussions about hidden bacterias in the prostate that need to be excreted are forbidden,
I would have to disagree with this stance, not that I believe that bacteria is the cause of CPPS. Its just that as soon as someone mentions the word bacteria they are shot down and chastised.
There are good reasons why we frown on talk of infections. The idea that our pain is caused by hidden and/or unculturable bacteria dominated discussion about this disorder for decades, leading nowhere. We started this website to give impetus to new ideas that built on recent scientific studies proving that bacteria are NOT the cause of chronic pelvic pain.
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