UCPPS - Prostatitis, Interstitial Cystitis Forum

webslave wrote:Flump, that is a very, very worrying post. I have never heard of anyone doing that before, and it has a suspiciously sexual aspect that sets off alarm bells for me.

Does anyone else feel this is disturbing?

Do you know where he used to get his information/tips from? Gay websites! I kid you not. He would trawl the gay websites for information. Thinking back, I was crazy, but as I said I didn't know what correct PT was and you are so, so desperate to get better you will try anything. I would come out of his place nearly passing out!

Alprost was right in what he said about Bill

Well, some people argued heatedly with me behind the scenes (and on this forum) when I had a go at Taylor. As far as I am concerned, this proves me right! Thanks for blowing the whistle on this "therapist", flump.

Flump,

I do not mean to single you out, but that is arguably one of the most disturbing posts I have ever read. Even more than the ones on the guys who went to see Song and the Manilla boys.

I agree with Web, maybe there was something perverted and sexual going on.

What a hellish sounding experience

flump wrote:I myself have seen Bill Taylor for almost a yr and I would not recommend him under ANY circumstances. I had never seen a pelvic floor PT until I saw Bill so I didn't know what was a right way to treat someone with this condition but after seeing Rhonda Katarinos in Chicago for over a yr and comparing the two the difference is NIGHT AND DAY!

I have irreversible damage to my sphincter caused by Bill Taylor, how did this happen? The man was putting 4 yes 4 fingers into my rectum and ramming them as fast as he could in and out of my rectum in his words "I am stripping the muscles". He was basically fist ****ing me, absolute madness and pain like you would never believe! The man should be struck off he has no clue what he's doing and for that reason he should not be treating something he has no professional training in.

I am not the only one who has had damaged caused to them by Bill Taylor. He is a lawsuit waiting to happen

Thanks for posting this Flump. Knowing Bill, I feel it is very unlikley that this is some form of deviant behaviour on his part. If what you are saying is correct, it is likely to be just plain ineptitude that is behind this 'treatment'. He used some unusual methods on me, but at no time did I feel there was anything underhand going on - looking back, he just didn't know what he was doing. However, by not getting himslef properly trained in TP release, especially internal work, he is leaving himslef professionally exposed by meddling in this area.

I've always regretted putting people onto Bill - at the time I didn't know any better, but as soon as I was treated by Tim I knew I had to discourage people form seeing him. I now know of 7 people who have been treated by Bill who have gone on to see a recognised expert in the field, and everyone has said the same thing - his treatment was very poor, and he missed most, if not all, of their key trigger points. I even know of people who have gone down the surgery route after seeing Bill, as they were convinced that they didn't have trigger points which could be causing their symptoms if he couldn't find them.

At least now we can, as a group, issue a stark warning to anyone considering seeing Bill.

I'm glad to see you are getting appropriate treatment. If I can give you one bit of advice based on my own experience, it is to focus on getting better and forget about Bill and what he done to you.

I think the problem lies with his ego, instead of putting his hands up and saying I am out of my depth and need proper training he just ploughs on in "having a go" problem with that is we or I was trial and error as I said unfortunately I have irreversible damage to my sphincter. He promised me and another x patient he would go to Stanford for proper training; this went on for many months just being lied to. He had no intention of going and he never did, I know he has recently done a days training with Stephanie and Liz when they were in Ireland.

alprost wrote:[I'm glad to see you are getting appropriate treatment. If I can give you one bit of advice based on my own experience, it is to focus on getting better and forget about Bill and what he done to you.

I used to see your posts about Bill when I was first seeing him and I used to stick up for Bill on this very forum but now having correct treatment I can see you were right all along, sorry.

Nothing to apologise for - I was in the same position once prior to seeing Tim.

Tim is in another league entirely and like most things in life, until you have the direct experience, it's hard to fully appreciate the difference.

Wish I had gone over to see Tim years ago.

flump wrote:i think the problem lies with his ego,instead of putting his hands up and saying i am out of my depth and need proper trainning he just ploughs on in "having a go" problem with that is we or i was trial and error as i said unfortunatly i have irreversable damage to my sphinchter.he prommised me and another x patient he would go to standford for proper trainning this went on for many months just being lied to he had no intention of going and he never did,i know he has recently done a days trainning with stephanie and liz when they were in ireland.

He was telling me he had planned to go to Stanford for training a number of times and I've not seen him for over 4 years!

It sounds like a bad experience and I'm not for one minute suggesting you are not being truthful about it, as you clearly were treated like this. But how do you know he used gay websites to try and learn about treatment methods? This seems a bit far fetched to me!

If he did, why would he even tell anyone about that? I believe your story about the treatment you received, but I'm struggling with the gay website stuff to be honest!

Anyway you now have a good PT and are getting the treatment you need. Hope you make a full recovery and the damage that was caused can be reversed.

scotcan wrote:If he did, why would he even tell anyone about that? I believe your story about the treatment you received, but I'm struggling with the gay website stuff to be honest!

He told me he used the gay sites.

Wow!! I have been staying away from this thread...But man, this is right up there with the whole Manila Dr Feliciano ( spelling) scam!!! I'm sorry Flump!! Looking ahead to better days for sure for you...

Best

flump wrote:He told me he used the gay sites.

I think this was his way of signalling his sexuality to you, flump. I would not be surprised if Taylor is homosexual, and if he is using this job as a way of satisfying his proclivities. This may be common in men who choose specifically to treat other men with intrarectal massage, I don't know. But to carry it to the degree Taylor has done, with someone he probably perceived as vulnerable, is appalling. This rises to the level of a reportable offence, IMO.

flump wrote:

scotcan wrote:If he did, why would he even tell anyone about that? I believe your story about the treatment you received, but I'm struggling with the gay website stuff to be honest!

He told me he used the gay sites.

flump - sorry to ask this question but when I first read your response to the question from scotcan you said that Bill hadn't told you, but someone else had told you that he'd told them he used gay websites - and that you couldn't tell us who it was. When I've come back to the forum this morning I see you have completely flipped that story and changed your response to say that Bill did tell you. Could you please explain why the change?

We know that Bill should be avoided for the poor treatment choices and damage he has done to a number of sufferers.