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[Paulr83]

I'm in desperate need of advice. In July I had a sexual encounter that lasted 5 min. I cheated on my wife. I feel so awful I don't know if I have words to describe it. Pure hell. I'm in hell. I took 875 mg amoxicillin twice a day for seven days starting the day after the encounter. On the seventh day I started getting symptoms. Frequent urination, burning tip and my stream going right and slow. I then took 2 grams azithromycin. Didn't help. I then took trimethoprim. Didn't help. I got tested for gonorrhea chlamydia and trich. All negative. I went to doc and was paranoid I have trich. Took another urine test. Negative. She said I have prostatitis. I then went to urologist. He did a dip stick and said I have nothing in my urine and that I have CPPS. He said he would send my urine for Microgen PCR. It came back and he said my test was "perfectly normal" and that I needed to basically get help for my emotional distress. He also mentioned exercises and the things talked about on this forum. My question is shouldn't he have done a prostate exam? Or tested prostate fluid or semen? I was able to ask the other girl of this situation to get tested and she did. All negative. But her trich test was just a rapid antigen test. I don't know how much to trust that test seeing that she is asymptomatic if positive. I have every symptom it seems like. Golf ball in rectum, my testicles feel like they've been kicked, pain in pelvis, thighs but everything. No discharge except twice I had some scant mucosa after peeing I noticed. My penis is sore all the time. I can really feel my urethra from balls to tip. I'm freaking out and worried I passed something to my wife even though she has no symptoms as of yet. Neither does the other girl nor her partner. Should I find a different doctor? Is he not doing his due diligence by not doing a prostate message and testing the fluid? This has been going on for 3 months please help! Any advice would be much appreciated! Thank you!

[cam3roni]

Fill out your tags at the bottom with your age, etc... helps to know details like that.

First of all, you don't have any sort of infection. You tested negative, your partner tested negative, and your wife has no symptoms. VERY rarely is any of this caused by an active infection.

Something triggered you to have CPPS. It most likely was some sort of distress caused by you cheating on your wife or could be something else, the point is you have CPPS. Noone knows the cause (s) of CPPS exactly, otherwise we all would have been cured a long time ago.

Read up on the forum, there are plenty of men who have almost identical stories to yours. Read what has worked for others and start trying to find what works for you.

The best advice I can give you for now is try to relax as much as you can. Time WILL heal your affliction, or at least make it a lot better, take comfort in that.

[Paulr83]

I'm 47. Thanks for responding. Well I'm just very paranoid because I have a lot of penis pain and the tip is red and sore all the time. It burns and the color is off. Its just hard to believe its stress or whatever. I mean exactly 7 days after the regrettable event I have std like symptoms. I just think the doc should have done a little more to make certain.

[cam3roni]

If you really want to be sure for piece of mind, ask for a PCR of your semen to be done. A lot of things like your penis being red and color being off are most likely you over analyzing your penis. Even if it truly is red and such, that would be more of a skin condition, not a symptom of an STD. The soreness is due to the pelvic area being irritated, all the nerves in that area run down through the penis.

[Paulr83]

Thank you I will do that. I'm sure I'm over analyzing everything no doubt. But def is red. It burns for days then stops for a few days then back at it.

[webslave]

If you really want to be sure for piece of mind, ask for a PCR of your semen to be done.

Commercially, the main player in this space is a scammer.
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[Paulr83]

Not sure what exactly you mean. Not only am I on here but I'm also a dummy. Please explain

[webslave]

Basically, keep away from people who offer PCR tests. They have zero credibility.

[Paulr83]

Gotcha. I've had all tests done on urine anyway. I do not think it's bacterial. The one thing that scares me is if it is infectious it might be trich. However I would be the only one out of 4 people in this stupid triangle of my own stupid ass decision to have symptoms. At least for now 3 months later. I just wish I had some peace of mind instead of panic and worry along what seems like every symptom this CPPS has to offer.

[cam3roni]

If you really want to be sure for piece of mind, ask for a PCR of your semen to be done.

Commercially, the main player in this space is a scammer.
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I read the thread, I definitely see the issues. Wouldn’t it still be viable for testing for STDs though? Chlamydia, gon, etc? Bacterial count shouldn't matter for those as they are not a naturally present bacteria.

[webslave]

Wouldn’t it still be viable for testing for STDs though? Chlamydia, gon, etc? Bacterial count shouldn't matter for those as they are not a naturally present bacteria.

I recommend using conventional lab tests to identify infections. Bacterial count does matter, even for pathogenic bacteria. Chlamydia trachomatis is a commensal in the gastrointestinal tract, so finding one or two is insignificant and can be misleading. N. gonorrhoea is a pathogen at all times, but even then, if PCR picks up a few, what is the significance? If it infects you, it will explode in numbers and will be seen in culture tests, and you'll have typical symptoms, like discharge & burning during urination. It won't smolder away as a tiny, isolated infection (and if it did, it could not cause the pain of CPPS). One or two could mean some fragments got into your urethra when you last had sex with a woman who herself had gonorrhoea, or who recently had sex with another man who had gonorrhoea. And with PCR tests, you can get false positives.

Tiny traces of pathogens are not a reliable indicator of an infection causing the major symptoms we see in CPPS. I'm still a proponent of cultures and colony counts for identifying infections.

The idea that PCR testing has caused a breakthrough in the treatment of CP/CPPS is utterly incorrect. It has not happened. All it has done is cause a lot of men to spend a lot of money on absurdly sensitive tests in the eternal hunt for a bug that is causing their problem. It's a way of avoiding the hard work and time needed to cure yourself the correct way.

[Paulr83]

Are these posts directly about my situation? Not sharpest knife in the drawer here but I'm not sure if I should go back to doc and ask for more tests like a prostate message and post message urine test etc...? This shit is confusing. I worry because I have quite a few symptoms where in the reading on this site seems like most have a few but not as many. Makes my anxiety go through the roof. I don't think its bacterial std because I've been tested and so has she. All negative. However my main concern is that its protozoan. We've been tested but only on urine. Twice. One she did was a swab rapid antigen but since she is asymptomatic the test aren't as accurate. So I feel left w worry that I nor she can get a reliable test.

[webslave]

You don't have trich symptoms and you have a typical case of CPPS brought on by psychological factors. There are many cases just like yours on our forum.

[Paulr83]

Thanks for responding

[stanfelder]

OP..... I have fought the same battle as you for over 2.5 years. I was convinced of the same things you are. I freaked out and put myself through hell. I'm talking next level anxiety, extremely unhealthy, holding on for dear life kind of stuff. I had the golf ball feeling, what I thought was a red tip, discomfort after urination, discomfort after ejaculation, etc. went to all the doctors, they think I'm nuts. I passed all STD tests, and I'm talking out to over a year which is just nuts. My wife recently had a full female exam including STD tests and all were clear. I am finally accepting that my emotional response likely caused this. But it's hard as I came to believe I had a prostate infection hiding deep inside me. I do sit in pain right now as I type this. Would love to figure out how to get past that part.

Advice: let it go man. It seems impossible, but that's your prescription. You don't have an infection. Take a hard stance with yourself and let this shit go. Welcome to the pain club, and that's your punishment. Believe me, that sucks enough. But you are heading down a dangerous path that will be difficult to unravel otherwise.