Viagra during Recovery?

[iHurt]

Last question for a while I promise! Here's my situation. I don't get up during the night to urinate ever. When I wake up in the morning I have a very FULL bladder and an erection you could knock down walls with. As soon as I relieve myself the erection is gone and doesn't come back.
When my wife and I try to have sex we have to really work at getting an erection. It only ever gets to about 80-85% and its very difficult to maintain as it.

Second problem is increased sensitivity. Where if I do manage to gett things going I clamax in less than 30 seconds. It doesn't leave me feeling very manly when I used to be able to go 30-40 minutes.

My Uro said he could write a script for viagra but I've never taken it. So has anyone tried viagra or similar drugs to help the ED? Last thing I want to do is hurt myself further.

Thanks

[webslave]

I've seen positive posts on viagra. One guy said it was one of the things that really helped.

The ED aspect of PM-CPPS is most likely a result of neuromuscular dysfunction and trigger points. I'm currently treating trigger points in my shoulders that are responsible for an unbelievable amount of pain and disability ... I cannot stress enough how these entitites are capable of mimicking many disorders (in my case rheumatoid arthritis and frozen shoulder). If you have trigger points nearby a structure in your body (gland, joint etc), anything is possible. It's really difficult to convey to people how serious they can be, how much pain they can cause, and how many effects they can have. I'm becoming a convert to the TP point of view. My Theracane has brought back movement to my shoulders. Each session leaves me feeling a little better, but I can tell this is going to take a while.

[boudreaux]

Right on, Webslave. All it takes is to have one personal experience with trigger point release, and one is immediately converted. Janet Travell was a genius. I'm convinced that when the mainstream medical world accepts and embraces trigger point therapy, the pain industry will be changed forever.

To all I say, buy Claire Davies' book
The Trigger Point Therapy Workbook: Your Self-Treatment Guide for Pain Relief

and find a myofascial/deep tissue/trigger point therapist that can not only treat you themselves, but help you learn how to treat yourself with a Theracane, tennis balls, grip end of a golf club, knobber, etc. Doing self-treatment of trigger points is more important than traditional stretching because the traditional stretching cannot release the trigger point. Stretching is the maintenance part, i.e., once you've released the myofascial restriction, stretching keeps the tissue long, supple, and pain free. Also, if your restriction is long standing, like a five year frozen shoulder, it make take several months to clear all the restriction and related restriction. Sometimes it takes significant deep tissue upper leg massage before lower back restriction finally eases up. It's all connected, study Davies' book and read it cover to cover. Tight hamstrings can cause headaches, friends.

AHIP's relaxation therapy and yoga are extremely complimentary to trigger point release. As Dr. Wise says, you can have all the therapy in the world, but if you walk around all day after your therapy in a tensed up, clenched state, the trigger points will come right back. I try to be relaxed as a noodle all day, even while I work. Any time I sense some tension arising, I relax and shake out that area and say to myself "You know, this is no big deal, whatever is stressing me out isn't even important" and it helps a lot.

And here's my advice to Ihurt: first, you can ask as many questions on this site as you want, we're all in the same boat and getting better together, and every post may mean something and help someone in some way. second, as webslave says, get some trigger point treatment. Read "A Headache in the Pelvis" right now. If you get some internal trigger point treatment (which will hurt a lot at first), take a couple or three weeks off from sex, and take some baths and relax, and I'm confident your bedroom prowess will return. It's your central nervous system, my friend, not your equipment. Your equipment is just fine, it's just getting the wrong messages. Quit putting pressure on it. Relax and know that things will get better in the near future. Read AHIP

[scotsman]

[webslave]

...My Uro said he could write a script for viagra but I've never taken it

Todays' headline:

Some Viagra users report blindness-Pfizer

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. health regulators on Friday said they have received more than 40 reports of a type of blindness in men taking impotence drugs, mostly involving Pfizer Inc.'s Viagra.

[winding_road]

Hey Ihurt,
Viagra and Cialis help a bit, make it easier to get an erection. but for many they don't give you back the erection that they used to have. However it might work for you very well.


I am intrigued by the story you tell. If you wake up with a Hard and full erection, this is good I suppose.

Do you feel any loss of sensation in you penis ? ( like it is sometimes disconnected from your body, that your libido is a bit lower .. ? )


As Mark said, the problem in my opinion is very much linked to the problem you'r having. I'd say go for a good PT and let her/him, examines you internally and see the situation there.
For me I figured out that this is the case, (muscle problems ) , from the symptoms, but although I might get pain relief after the PT for few days, my ED problem hasn' t changed much since I started PT 2 months ago.


If you don't want to jump on ED Drugs, you can try :
L-Arginine ( it helped some people here, just search )
+
Yohimbine
+ healthy lifestyle

Hope we will get more attention from UROs on this issue.
This issue is rareley mentionned, which makes it even more frustrating.

I am 24, and I can tell you, if I manage to take this thing out of my mind during the day , at night ( just like last night) I dream about doctors and my whole situation and I will be sometime crying begging for an answer in my dream. I know this sounds odd but yeah, if you do the maths I would say 1 in a million ( or even less) experience what I am experiencing at this age, THAT IS ODD .

[iHurt]

I don't know about finding a PT as I'm leaving NJ in about 2 weeks and relocation to Raleigh. So I'll have to start the process of finding insurance, a GP and a URO. Then convince them that I have CPPC before the start me on my 1,000 round of Cipro or doxy lol. Meanwhile I'll continue with the stretching, squatting and walking. Been doing it pretty vigorously for 4-5 days.

For winding, yes it seems strange to me that the erection is there in the am and my normal size and all. But once thats gone thats it. I used to get a few random erections during the day, now nothing, nobody home. Its typically real real soft and limp like a wet noodle. Seems nothing arrouses it at all. I have a few hypothesis, 1.) Resrticted blood flow to the fellow because of the CPPS. 2.) Depression because I haven't been able to work much and so now my house is in foreclosure. 3.) I'm leaving what I know and moving to a new state, NC. or maybe all of the above.

Sorry if this is too much information but somebody needs to hear it I'm sure. Now the good news. Again pure speculation. After 4-5 days stretching and everything, I just woke up from a little afternoon nap with the wife. Woke up and got it on! The fellow was 90% at first, dropped to about 80% while I put a condom on (hate those things) and went back up to 90%. I lasted about 10 minutes as opposed to the 30 seconds of late and NOTHING HURTS!!!.

Well thats a little premature because if its going to hurt it won't hurt until tomorrow. Why is that anyone know? Anyway, I'm believeing I'm on the mend so don't get in my way. BTW - day 2 on any accredited quercetin product as well. I know its not even in my system yet but... Hope that helps.

[CppsDad]

I used to have the "limp noodle" sensation (probably 8 months ago), as well as the decreased sensitivity, as if the darn thing was separate from my body. This is gone now 95%. I think for me this was related 100% to bloodflow in the region which was restricted due to my tense pevlic muscles. But doing stretches for all this time has opened the region up again and allowed for some healing. I hope that address your question, iHurt. And for Winding Road, hang in there - 2 months is not long enough to judge the success of your PT. Commit yourself to the stretching and massaging, and do it for 6 months or more (the time goes fast), and reevaluate your condition then.

iHurt, it sounds like you are going through a stressful time; this could certainly exacerbate your symptoms. Congrats on the mid-day nookie though! Use that as encouragement to fight this thing hard. It will be a LONG, PROTRACTED GROUND WAR, and you have to put everything you have into it having only the faith that it will help you in the end. You are going to have a LOT of ups and downs the next few months as you get into the Stanford/Wise-Anderson Protocol, and while the ups are great, the downs are far worse and stick in your mind much longer. Perhaps I can prevent you from getting so down about your next setback - because it WILL happen. This entire protocol is 2 steps forward, 1 step back. But some people will see the 1 step back and just give up, and go 3 steps back. This is the wrong approach. The flare-up in symptoms will happen. Expect it. Use it. Each each improvement you make, your flare-ups will be 1 day shorter. You also mention you are doing therapy vigorously; my only caution there is to make sure you are always being safe (i.e. stretching slowly, warming up). I've had too many CPPS-related injuries than I can remember (mostly back pulls from stretching).

Regarding the "next day" pain, I think this is just a typical pattern for muscle inflamation. Muscle pain peaks 24-36 hours after the "injury", and this is mirrored for many of us in the amount of time our chronic prostatitis / chronic pelvic pain syndrome takes to flare after sex.

Michael

[iHurt]

Just a follow up note: No reported "day after nookie pain" whatsoever. That's encouraging. Started the cobra stretches last night. Just a few as I didn't want to over do it. Squats throughout the day as I thought to do so. Today I uped my morning walk from 1 mile to 2 miles (second mile I increased my pace for the cardio and blood flow).

As a side note: I was seeing a physical trainer last year for cardio rehabilitation after I quit smoking. She stressed that you should always stretch the muscles AFTER the work-out as part of your cool down. Because when you stretch cold muscles they are more prone to injury.